[MD] Misunderstandings are driven by what we value not by the logic we use.

[David Morey]

Dan:
Well, I think you may  be falling into the same SOM trap as Harding and
Morey here although you crawl out of this abyss quite nicely later on. IF
we are using the term 'experience' in the context of the MOQ, then we
(subjects) do not experience things (objects) such as concepts. We
manipulate those concepts, those memories of experience, but those concepts
and words are secondary to experience, they are not experience itself.

DM: Just like to clarify that I do not think subjects experience objects,
but I do suggest we experience patterns and think that it is a moot
point whether we should say that patterns can only be experience
if concepts are being used to experience them, I do agree that
where we do refer to concepts these are clearly an elaboration of
primary experience.

Dan why to you keep misrepresenting what I have said I would
not do this to you?