[MD] relatively static

[Jan Anders Andersson]

How about this

http://www.flixxy.com/the-incredible-power-of-concentration-miyoko-shida.htm#.UZCXf3DEjcU

J A


13 maj 2013 x kl. 09.14 skrev MarshaV:

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> Greetings J-A,
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> On May 13, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Jan Anders Andersson wrote:
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>> Dear Marsha 
>> 
>> I think you are interested to know its point.
> 
> Is it your habit (pattern) to think you KNOW other people's interests?  That's a rather grandiose claim.  -  Make your point!   
> 
> 
> Here's my mundane point:
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> 
> 
> --- Static patterns of value are repetitive processes (multiple events), 
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>             conditionally co-dependent, 
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>                          impermanent, 
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>                                       and ever-changing, 
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> that pragmatically tend to persist and change within a stable, predictable pattern.  
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> Within the MoQ, 
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>         these patterns are morally categorized into a four-level, evolutionary, 
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>          hierarchical  
>                             structure:  
>                                             intellectual, 
>                                                                social, 
>                                                                           biological, 
>                                                                                            and inorganic. 
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> Static quality exists in stable patterns relative to other patterns.  
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>                                          Patterns have no independent, inherent existence. ---
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> 
> Marsha 
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> p.s.  Consider this explanation in the same category as "pure experience" where 'pure' doesn't mean 'pure' but merely 'relatively pure' and there are no accusations of some horrendous, unspeakable, anti-intellectual crime against definition. 
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>> 12 maj 2013 x kl. 23.46 skrev MarshaV:
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>>> 
>>> J-A,
>>> 
>>> Answer the Y/N questions yourself; I am not interested in doing so.  It's your thought experiment, so explain its point.   What are you thinking?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> On May 12, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
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>>>> Dear Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> It shouldn't hurt or be dangerous in any way to just answer my questions with YES or NO.
>>>> 
>>>> Is the clay burned to make it firm?  Y/N
>>>> 
>>>> Does that make it better and more useful?  Y/N
>>>> 
>>>> J-A
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan-Anders,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The original topic has not been replaced; it was change, not clay or teapots or 'saving time'.   Before (when soft and malleable) and after a firing (when firm and stable), the clay is still in a constant state of changing.  In other words, both before and after the firing, the clay or teapot  is ever-changing.  So once again I suggest that you might take a few minutes everyday to take an introspective look:  
>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha:
>>>>> I have pointed out many times, it is not anti-intellectual or a contradiction to understand that patterns may maintain a static, stable identity at the same time as they and their context are undergoing constant change. Think of the Ship of Theseus, or a parade (Hume) where everyone drops out but is replaced so that the parade is maintained, or the body with its cells constantly being replaced.  Things can change - flow - and yet have permanence; think of a river.
>>>> 
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>>>> 11 maj 2013 x kl. 00.43 skrev MarshaV:
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>>>>> 
>>>>> J-A,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any time you are ready to make the point of your thought experiment clear I will consider it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 10, 2013, at 5:50 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well Marsha
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You admit that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and stable AND still in a constant state of changeing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you understand that there is a change? The physical pattern changes into another, OK?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> J-A
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 10 maj 2013 kl. 10.32 skrev MarshaV:
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> J-A,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What potter?  -  It's your thought experiment and I don't understand it's point, so you'd be the person who must answer the questions. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 10, 2013, at 3:30 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OK, you say that the clay changes from soft and malleable to firm and stable AND still in a constant state of changeing.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So why do you think the potter is burning the clay? Is it because it makes the clay firm and stable or doesn't it really matter because it is still in a state of change?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jan-Anders
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 10 maj 2013 x kl. 09.12 skrev MarshaV:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> snip... 
>>>>>>>>> 
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