[MD] Misunderstandings are driven by what we value not by the logic we use.

[david buchanan]

dmb said:
But seriously, David. I thought your "overall point" was dead and buried long ago. Sorry, I just think you're making no sense and quite vaguely too. Maybe you'd like to demonstrate this method of "considering values". Show us how one looks at Marsha's values apart from the considerations of intellectual coherence. Use Marsha's favorite salad of words for an example, please. You know, the one she repeats so often and in which she describes static patterns as "ever-changing".  For the sake of argument, I'll pretend that the intellectual values (or lack thereof) don't merit consideration while you do what you're telling me to do. Show me what it is. I honestly can't imagine how that would actually work.

djh responds:
..."As I keep explaining - I think that it is Marsha's extreme love of *DQ* which is destroying her ability to appreciate the 'staticness' of intellectual values. 



dmb says:
Sigh.

Yea, Marsha uses her love of DQ to shit on intellectual values. Obviously. And stating the obvious helps how, exactly? Seriously, David, you cannot possibly believe that this is news to anyone.

I think this shows that your suggestion is quite worthless. Would you like to show me something that isn't already in plain sight? Or would you prefer to continue with the vague and useless platitudes?

Concepts and reality, David. They are two different things. This is the point you're not getting and you've now painted yourself into the same paralyzing, anti-intellectual corner. Fair warning; people get stuck in this corner for years.