[MD] theories of truth

[MarshaV]

David,

On May 23, 2013, at 6:48 AM, David Harding <davidjharding at gmail.com> wrote:
David Harding:
And so I conclude - Marsha is a mystic and has no interest in intellectual quality or questions about whether something exists before we think about it.

Marsha:
So, David, EITHER I discuss with you 'whether something exists before we think about it' <a statement that makes no sense to me> to entitle myself as 'intellectual' OR I get labeled a mystic (an obvious charlatan)?   That is your line of thinking?   You're another Flatlander?  Either/or?  Yes/no?  True/false?  0/1?  A or not-A?  You're another Aristotelian?  Ah-choo!  Ah-choo!  Ah-choo!  
 
Goodness, it is no wonder I prefer the wisdom of the East:  "the Tao is the groundless and boundless; it is the flowing, dynamic, yet unmoved amidst infinite change."

If you want to discuss 'whether something exists before we think about it', present your views on the topic.  If I have something to contribute maybe I will, or maybe I'll remain silent.  But at the moment the topic makes no sense to me.   

'If this is, that comes to be; from the arising of this, that arises; if this is not, that does not come to be; from the stopping of this, that is stopped'.
       - Buddha

It's not what 'James says', but so what?     

Marsha
  


On 23/05/2013, at 8:11 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> On May 23, 2013, at 5:43 AM, David Harding <davidjharding at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Marsha wrote:
>>> You don't think so?   
>>> 
>>> Marsha wrote more:
>>> 
>>> Imagination?  How did you come to choose this particular entry from the dictionary?  How did you know this is what I meant?  Maybe I meant 'imagination' as a stand-in for 'illusion', 'ghost', 'useful fiction' and 'maya'.  
>>> 
>>> Dictionary:
>>> 
>>> Dictionary - "a book, optical disc, mobile device, or online lexical resource(such asDictionary.com ) containing a selection of the words of a language, giving information about their meanings, pronunciations, etymologies, inflected forms, derived forms, etc., expressed in either the same or another language; lexicon; glossary. Print dictionaries of various sizes, ranging from small pocket dictionaries to multivolume books, usually sort entries alphabetically, as do typical CD or DVD dictionary applications, allowing one to browse through the terms in sequence. All electronic dictionaries, whether online or installed on a device, can provide immediate, direct access to a search term, its meanings, and ancillary information: _an unabridged dictionary of English; a Japanese-English dictionary_." 
>>> 
>>> And more:
>>> Is this what you think?  You think of value sometimes as external "objects"?  That's interesting.   
>>> 
>>> And finally some more:
>>> I can't imagine such a question.  I accept the MoQ's fundamental principal that the world is nothing but Value.  
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha,
>> 
>> You seem only interested in playing the game of 'intellectual tries and fails to catch the mystic'.  Oh, oh - I'll play the intellectual - you play the Mystic! 
>> 
>> And go!
>> 
>> Orrrr.. not so much.  dmb might like to play this game but I don't.  Are you interested in the question of whether things exist before we think about them?
> 
> David,
> 
> Who's playing games now?  Do you expect to manipulate me with such rhetoric?  Your question doesn't make sense to me.  Everything-is-connected-to-everything...  Play the part of an intellectual if it makes you feel superior.   I'll play the role of a flow of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent and impermanent static patterns: inorganic patterns, biological patterns, social patterns and intellectual patterns of value flowing within the infinite field of Dynamic Quality.    
> 
> Bye David.
> 
> 
> Marsha