[MD] Independent reality?

[MarshaV]

Hi again Joe,

I also think it best to consider static patterns of value from two different points of view. The first would be the nature of all patterns:  co-dependent, impermanent and ever-changing. All static patterns, due to the  relationship with the consciousness (perceptual and conceptual), are a product of reification as knower and known; language just reflects this.  Processes are decontextualized and temporarily encapsulated or “frozen” by reification to form patterns.  --------------  A second point-of-view would be by categorizing patterns into evolutionary function  - inorganic, biological, social and intellectual – into the MoQ's four-level, hierarchical structure. 


Marsha


On May 29, 2013, at 11:08 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:


Hi Joe,

Yes, that's it.  I _experience_ the two-view perspective of the MoQ.  Firstly, there is the MoQ as the intellectual/conceptual metaphysical system, with all its examples and supporting explanation, which was presented by RMP in 'LILA' and with interviews, text and letters; and there is the MoQ as Reality = Quality (Dynamic/static), or as I prefer to think of it:  Value(unpatterned/patterned).  In this second view, I am saying that the Metaphysics of Quality denotes Reality = Quality(Dynamic/static).  Metaphysics as first, or fundamental, principle. ---  The first view might be explained as 'pointing to the moon', and the second view as 'direct experience.'

It's interesting that you consider a half step to be a shock.  Don't those shocks move with the scale?  


Marsha



On May 29, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi MarshaV
> 
> I take the nine-view musical perspective of the MOQ.  Do, Re, Mi, (shock),
> Fa, Sol, La, Ti, (shock), Do.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> On 5/27/13 8:21 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> I take the two-view perspective of the MoQ.
> 
>