[MD] Step two

[Jan Anders Andersson]

Yes Arlo

12 aug 2014 x kl. 16:04 ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR <ajb102 at psu.edu> wrote:

> [Jan-Anders]
> Football and other team sports can be considered as instruments for evaluating social patterns of ”shared attention”, isn’t it? 
> 
> [Arlo]
> I'm not exactly sure of what you mean by "evaluating". Taking a stab, I overheard someone tell in my local pub say that Mario Goetze's World Cup Final goal was  a "work of art". Certainly, the "work of art" was the coordination, awareness, precision and communication between not just Andre Schurrle and Mario Goetze, but the entire team. In that sense, yes, I'd say that the activity displayed among the German team day was 'artistry' (read "high quality endeavor"). And, I admit I choose soccer in my example specifically because of the (IMHO) obvious need for all players to have "shared attention" on the ball (in order to succeed). 
> 
> But, I'd caution here that I am not saying that social patterns are nothing more than "shared attention". The World Cup is no more 'just shared attention' any more than the human body is 'just carbon atoms'. Shared attention (I argue) is present in all social patterns, the same way carbon atoms are present in all biological patterns, but I am not arguing that "social patterns = shared attention" (which, again, would be like saying "biological patterns = carbon atoms"). As Tomasello argued, "shared attention" is a specific feature of a complex neural mass, not a social pattern in and of itself. It is what enabled the emergence of the social level. From this "evolutionary stratagem" (as Pirsig refers to carbon bonding) appears increasingly complex semiotic, mediated activity (social patterns).
> 

Football, shared attention and sex are only examples of patterns at the levels, we should hold on to RMP’s definition to be able to extract the more details better. 

"Celebrity is to social patterns as sex is to biological patterns. Now he was getting it. This celebrity is Dynamic Quality within a static social level of evolution. It looks and feels like pure Dynamic Quality for a while, but it isn't. Sexual desire is the Dynamic Quality that primitive biological patterns once used to organize themselves. Celebrity is the Dynamic Quality that primitive social patterns once used to organize themselves. That gives celebrity a new importance.” 
Lila 

Jan-Anders


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