[MD] Greetings and Happy New Year

[Dan Glover]

Hi John
Good to see you back!

I sort of looked into the other list you mention but it seemed pretty much
a waste of time, and the older I get the less time I have.

I was hoping to engage Marsha in a discussion but as always whenever it
started to get half-way interesting she turned a cold shoulder to it and
began mumbling about ever-changing contexts and insulting me with
poorly-veiled innuendos. Sort of reminds me of Uncle Bo and his gentle
demeanor to everyone who happened to disagree with him.

Unfortunately, such shenanigans began to pull down the entire discussion
group. Those who are looking for serious interactions with others are put
off and either stop contributing or unsubscribe all together. Soon, all
that's left is sheer goofiness.

We should all appreciate the opportunity we have here to discuss Robert
Pirsig's ideas. Horse provides an excellent venue for us to share ideas and
compare our interpretations of the MOQ... he should be commended for all
his time and money he puts into it.

Anyway, I haven't read the book you mentioned but yes, less antagonism
would probably be a good thing. For my part, I'll be more congenial too, at
least until I'm not.

Thank you,

Dan




On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:32 PM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:

> I had applied to Horse and was waiting for news of acceptance for about a
> week, when I finally noticed an old filter over on the sidebar of gmail,
> that I remembered setting up to keep MD out of my in box and in it's own
> category.  Oops.
>
> I was sorry to hear about Marsha.  I'd been missing Marsha was one reason I
> came back to MD.  We never hear from Marsha at LS, she doesn't adulterate
> at all where even horse popped his head over the door occasionally.  Which
> I encourage others to join.  I think a two-fold approach is a good idea,
> one classic, one romantic and it would keep silly nonesense in one sphere
> and solid discussion in another.  People could choose to their mood and not
> have the wrong stuff foisted on 'em.  And I always hoped Marsha would join
> over there.  Isn't Lila her model and mode?
>
> But oh well.  People rarely listen to my advice and the longer they know
> me, the less likely they are to take it So I can't complain.   I'm glad to
> be back anyway and hoping for more cordial relations with all.  I was
> heavily influenced by a passage in a
> book<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Metaphysical_Club:_A_Story_of_Ideas_in_America
> >I
> recently read,  that described an interaction between John Dewey and
> Jane
> Addams wherein Addams convinced Dewey of her belief that antagonism is,
> metaphysically speaking,  illusory.
>
> I thought about that a bit and I realized I really liked the idea.  Who
> wouldn't want to live in a world without antagonism?  So I'm going to
> commit myself to that idea and see if I can't be more productive in my
> interactions.  A new year's resolution, if you will.
>
>
> John
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