[MD] The MOQ Handbook for Drugs - PART 1

[Ron Kulp]

Jan,
Interestingly enough, these"spirits"
Were commonly used in ancient rites
Just for the divination of the Dynamic,
Static pattern breaking temporary psychosis is the theme.
Some argue that it was these rites
Which indeed ARE evolutionary processes.
I think RMPs work is based in this theme.

-Ron 

> On Jun 15, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
> 
> Sorry Ant
> 
> At first I thought you were ironic. But I'll stick to the experience of our sensory system that was developed and guided by DQ through the evolution at all 4 levels. I don't think drugs will help us understand DQ any better. Alcohol, tobacco, dope, they all affect how the brain functions. The problem while using drugs  is that the observation of oneself is also affected, the mind-mirror is colored by the same substance. You think you see all there is to see, with colored and distorted glasses. It may also distort your reading.
> 
> All the inorganic, the biological, social and intellectual static patterns that took place before us made its evolutionary steps without drugs. Being a fly in a soup doesn't work very good.
> 
> Drugs affect our critical parts of our mental system in a destructive direction. Because, we need both sound critical and sensual abilities at its best to come closer to DQ.
> 
> We don't need drugs to hallucinate or find new patterns of thought. Mutations, dreams and stupidity are already at hand. Some days can get really weird.
> 
> Good art is a well balanced pattern in the three dimensions. Anyone can do anything better just by some conscious excercise. You'll really know when you are on the right track.
> 
> Take a fork, is it the right size or is it for picking olives? How many teeth and are all straight? Is it the best tool for eating soup?
> 
> Bon appétit
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX1uBcMfBl8
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPJ1ybWo09s
> 
> Jan-Anders
> 
> 
>> 15 jun 2014 x kl. 14.56 skrev Ant McWatt:
>> 
>> Jan Anders,
>> 
>> Thank you for the brief comment!  I think you're slightly missing the point though.
>> 
>> If someone asked me if I'd prefer a dentist, doctor or lawyer who takes cannabis or LSD in the evening at home AFTER they have done their day's work, then all things being equal, I would choose them every time over their "sober" colleagues (who probably have been people with serious alcohol problems anyway)!  Hence the link to the Susan Blackmore article in my last MD post:
>> 
>> www.susanblackmore.co.uk/journalism/telegraphdrugs.htm.
>> 
>> Another example is that I don't personally listen to much (if any) popular music by musicians who haven't taken recreational drugs.  As Bill hicks noted, drug free inspired rock music sucks!!!
>> 
>> Finally, the bottom line with me with all drugs is combining freedom to chose as an adult what drugs I take WITH the responsibility and education that such freedom entails (or should at least try to seek).
>> 
>> For instance, Adrie's recent heartfelt post (much appreciated btw) about the latter shows to me (amongst other issues) that the cannabis market in the Netherlands is unfortunately not being controlled properly (despite my initial impressions given in my "Handbook").  
>> 
>> As ever, we see the methodology of "participant observation" (Adries lives in Holland; I've only been a tourist there a couple of times), as promoted by Pirsig in LILA, is the primary way to go for researching such issues.  In other words, he knows what he's talking about in this particular regard, I don't!
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Ant
>> 
>> 
>> Jan Anders Andersson responded to Ant McWatt's last MD post, June 14th 2014:
>> 
>> I think drugs are ok as long as you also accept that your dentist, your doctor or your lawyer are stoned while assisting you.
>> 
>> 
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