[MD] Zen

[John Carl]

I choose to believe that we live in a dualistic world

The dualism can be expressed in many ways, but is best expressed, DQ and SQ.


SQ is the world of expected experience.  It's the world of the past -
of all that is, and has been and grows with every second as we wake
and as we sleep.  The past.

DQ is the world that is not - the world of dreams, and ideals and
ideas about hopes for the future.

I think people are interesting, in their orientation toward these
differing worlds -- what they cling to, tells a lot about them.  I
even find a sort of degeneracy in the clinging to chaos!  Moronism, I
called it once, and a fabulous bon mot, if I do say so myself.

I don't know what an Adrie is supposed to be, but it seems to me
little more than dmb gimp, and such a shallow presentation offends my
intellectual sensibilities.  But oh well.  That's what we've fallen
to, folks.

Love,

JC



On 8/4/15, Adrie Kintziger <parser666 at gmail.com> wrote:
> export-quality drivel
>
> 2015-08-04 3:11 GMT+02:00 david <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>:
>
>> Pure drivel, chicken zen clap trap. Boo.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jul 28, 2015, at 5:00 AM, David Morey <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi John
>> >
>> > Well an interesting experience, care is important, we need a lot more of
>> it, for a better quality planet.
>> >
>> > All the best
>> > David M
>> >
>> >> On 28 Jul 2015 03:15, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> from your link:
>> >>
>> >> "What is great faith? Great faith means that at all times you keep the
>> >> mind which decided to practice, no matter what. It is like a hen
>> >> sitting on her eggs. She sits on them constantly, caring for them and
>> >> giving them warmth, so that they will hatch. If she becomes careless
>> >> or negligent, the eggs will not hatch and become chicks. So Zen mind
>> >> means always and everywhere believing in myself…"
>> >>
>> >> We had a hen like that.  She sat faithfully, last march, on her eggs.
>> >> It's called "going broody" and it's not greatly encouraged in layers.
>> >> They get cantankerous and peck you when you try and pluck the eggs
>> >> from under them.  We did the best we could and just bought store eggs
>> >> for a while, hoping she'd give up.  She didn't give up.  A couple of
>> >> weeks ago, its the middle of July, and this god-forsaken hen is
>> >> brooding over eggs that will never hatch.  Why won't they hatch?
>> >> Because roosters are a pain in the ass, and we've gotten rid of ours,
>> >> long ago.
>> >>
>> >> But that damn hen, keeps sitting.  Or setting, I think it's termed.
>> >>
>> >> Finally, we decided to put an end to it.  We got her some chicks.
>> >> Only a day old, unsexed (more roosters!) and stuck them under her and
>> >> waited to see if the mothering instinct would kick in.  It did.  And
>> >> now she's the best mom, hovering over her little brood.  She hasn't
>> >> lost a single one and they are growing fast, learning the ways of the
>> >> farm and the family.
>> >>
>> >> So the question is, what is the moral of the story?  Which came first?
>> >> The urge of the chicken or the urge for the egg?   Was the hen
>> >> foolish?  She was setting on unfertilized eggs, that certainly seems
>> >> foolish.  But on the other hand, we had to acquiesce in the end to her
>> >> stubborness and provide her with the family that she so obviously
>> >> demanded.  She's happy, we're happy and everything works out great,
>> >> especially with the rise in egg prices these days
>> >> (
>> http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/worst-bird-flu-outbreak-u-s-history-spreads-egg-prices-begin-skyrocket/)-
>> >>
>> >> a whole new brood of layers is a good thing for self-sufficiency.
>> >>
>> >> The really interesting thing tho, is that one of my hens died.  I
>> >> don't know why, she just got really sick and wouldn't get up and
>> >> started to smell bad, so I dispatched her and after that, Blackie the
>> >> mom, went all broody.  Something about the witnessing of death,
>> >> triggered the mind of the chicken to bring more life into the world.
>> >> I can't explain it, but
>> >>
>> >> it's a beautiful thing.
>> >>
>> >>> On 7/27/15, David Morey <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>> A little Zen for little ones…
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://www.brainpickings.org/2015/07/27/dropping-ashes-on-the-buddha-death/
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