[MD] Julian Baggini: This is what the clash of civilisations is really about

[Ron Kulp]

John,
I'm not sure how logical systems fit
Into the comment. All I was trying to playfully point out is that by virtue of considering ALL ideas equally and sifting through them with a critical eye, you are going to have to deal with the assholes pranksters fools
And the simple minded. You know,
Morons.

 

> On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:15 PM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ron,
> 
> Without getting into what I meant before, let's just riff off what you
> replied, because it lines up with what I've been reading lately about
> Absolute Pragmatism...
> 
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Ron Kulp <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ron:
>> Does that mean the square root of 144 equals potato has the possibility
>> Of being a viable answer ?
> Written in 1907:
> 
> "The non-Euclidean geometry, strange to say, is not a discovery that we are
> any freer than we were before to think as we like regarding the system of
> geometrical truth. It is one part only of what Hilbert has called the
> "logical analysis" of our concept of space. When we take this analysis as a
> whole, it  involves a deeper insight than Euclid could possibly possess
> into the unchangeable necessities which bind together the system of logical
> relationships that the space of our experience merely exemplifies. Nothing
> could be more fixed than are these necessities. As for the numbers, which
> Dedekind called "freie Schopfungen" - well, his own masterpiece of  logical
> theory is a discovery and a rigid demonstration of a very remarkable and
> thoroughly objective truth about the fundamental relations in terms of
> which we all of us do our thinking.
> 
> His proof that all of the endless wealth of the properties of the ordinal
> numbers follows from a certain synthesis of two of the simplest of our
> logical conceptions, neither one of which, when taken alone, seems to have
> anything to do with the conception of order or of number, - - this proof, I
> say, is a direct contribution to a systematic theory of the categories,
> and, as such, is, to the logical inquirer, a dramatically surprising
> discovery of a realm of objective truth, which nobody is free to construct
> or to abandon at his pleasure.
> 
> If this be relativism, it is the relativism of an eternal system of
> relations.
> If this be freedom, it is the divine freedom of a self-determined, but, for
> that very reason, absolutely necessary fashion of thought and of activity."
> 
> 
> So... no, I don't think the square root of 144 is potato.  And furthermore,
> I understand why I don't think that.
> 
> John
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