[MD] The need for quality
wesstt at shaw.ca
Fri Sep 1 23:28:10 PDT 2017
I disagree strongly, Pirsig defines an exactitude, Andrew is there, he is making the world a better place,he is a quality thinker. Quality is the reality, if I can look at my twenty year old work boots or hockey skates that is a static pattern of quality, in 2017 we have something entirely different.
From: "Dan Glover" <daneglover at gmail.com>
To: "moq discuss" <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 12:08:28 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] The need for quality
I'm pretty sure the MOQ says how there is no 'true' reality. I think
it was John Carl who said someone developed a mirror to show a person
their 'true' image. Only if you stop and consider how we view reality
through the lens of our own personal history, it becomes apparent what
is true for one person isn't for another.
Interacting with others is not biological quality but rather social
quality patterns. That isn't to say social quality is composed of
biological beings, however. Rather it is the relationships existing
between people which comprise social patterns. So it behooves us all
to take care with who we interact no matter the circumstances.
Biological quality has nothing to do with intellectual quality.
Meaning and purpose are intellectual patterns which can indeed rely on
comfort and money. What's the old saying? It is hard to remember how
you're original intention was to drain the swamp when you're up to
your ass in alligators. In other words, when a person is beset by
poverty, their primary goal in life is to feed house and clothe their
family. Not doing philosophy.
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:01 PM, WES STEWART <wesstt at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hello Andrew and Dan,
> There are two realities that we feel. The intellectual reality and our biological reality. Pursig defined the only true reality, and he was right, you have to bring morality and classical scientific thought together. Its not all about the physics of bowling balls and the trajectory of a missile that are the only things we can measure.
> We can measure honesty, fairness, respect and kindness, its not subjective, and is inherent and part of our reality.
> It is difficult to build quality into ones own biological life, because it is highly dependent on those who surround you, the ones you interact with. It would be very difficult for a World War ll concentration camp prisoner to find meaning and purpose from his biological side, however it is possible that quality was found from the higher intellectual side, because meaning and purpose, like you have already said Andrew, does not rely on comfort level or money.
> Money could have easily bought your way out of a concentration camp at that time; according to the utmost scholar of holocaust studies Raul Hilberg.
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