[MD] The need for quality

WES STEWART wesstt at shaw.ca
Fri Sep 29 20:59:24 PDT 2017


Hello Dan; 

Are you the sole keeper of all knowledge on this site? 

Why did you turn Ardie into a lackie; you should have stopped it. 
Ardie is a good man and he should write something that I could learn from. 

Why do you start with an opinion that this is a trump card, to any observations that others have made? 

Phraedus attacked only those who represented a system, he never bullied his opinions on students sitting in the back row. 
Everyone of us at this forum is a student sitting in the back row. 

Pirsig did not want to bring any whiff of religion into any of his writings and denied it; yet it was so. 

What exactly is a "Whirling dervish?" Why did Pirsig use this term? 

"He looked up in the sky and whirled. Ahhh, that felt good! He hadn’t whirled like that for years. 
Since he was four. He whirled again. The sky, the ocean, the hook, the bay, spun round and round him. He felt like a Whirling Dervish." 
>From Lila: An Inquiry into Morals by Robert Pirsig 

It is only used as a term when you feel the presence of a creator. 
We whirl at young ages as Pirsig had done, we feel the presence of the creator. We whirl when we see value and quality in our reality. 

A stagnant system does not bring anyone to whirl. 

From: "Dan Glover" <daneglover at gmail.com> 
To: "moq discuss" <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org> 
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:11:47 PM 
Subject: Re: [MD] The need for quality 

Wes, 

Have I offended you somehow? If so, I apologize. Our discussion will end here. 


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:11 AM, WES STEWART <wesstt at shaw.ca> wrote: 
> Hello Ardie; 
> 
> It does not matter that Dan had the opportunity to work with Pirsig himself. 
> I am aware aware of that also. But tell me why, that Horse had told me this group was dead? 
> 
> Does Dan have anything to learn? If he does not have anything to learn, 
> I suggest he fly to Japan and have a brief conversation with Jiro. 
> 
> If I had the money or time I would; want to meet Jiro. 
> 
> 
> From: "Adrie Kintziger" <parser666 at gmail.com> 
> To: "moq discuss" <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org> 
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 12:59:23 AM 
> Subject: Re: [MD] The need for quality 
> 
> Hi, Wes, I live in Belgium, and i have copy's of 'Zen'... and 'Lila', in 
> different language's.Belium is tri-lingual. It seems to depend on the 
> editor/corrector/translator and...the several runs of it publishing. 
> You are not correct as it differs for the L and l in the way you are 
> projecting. 
> 
> 
> Btw , Dan had the opportunity to work with Pirsig himself(the Author), on a 
> book follow -up called 'Lila's Child',to clarify some issue's, and Dan 
> became an expert on the Subject Lila,Lila's Child, and Pirsig's work 
> altogether. 
> If he offers something, it is nearly as good and solid,as it was given 
> first handed by Pirsig himself. 
> I also remember Pirsig making the statement about the Lilac's odor. 
> But Dan is correct,Lila is Pirsig.Lila is an imaginary product.Lila is 
> inorganic/organic/biological/intellectual. In this summary nothing is 
> excluded. 
> 
> Adrie 
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