[MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends

Sat May 23 06:26:09 PDT 2020

Yes he does own a small lathe,although we do not need it very often,we use
it to sand  round parts and also do drill precision holes
that need work on the inside,but basically , if we need something of high
precision, we simply order it in China, as they have very good services for
turning work-on demand , and cheap as pak.
But a lathe is a bit like a motorcycle for many people, it is the last
thing to purchase and the first thing to kick out.

My son resides and works in Dublin  now , Anthony; he develops apps for
Linkedin, which is a daughter of Microsoft, and he is very happy there,
very good company with magnificent amenities (lol),a perfect on-demand
restaurant that would fit a 5 star hotel, coffeebars, massages at one's
desk on demand (!)
and a salary that would make most people doubt themselves.......the only
minor point is the rent for a small apartment in central Dublin , in the
old branches of the port
that stretches into the town,located on the water, on pole's and concrete
slabs.The high rise is on that slabs, the water flows underneath the
apartment; which is very nice!!
(2200) euro/month!, but if one compares it to what he makes....
The apartment he has here,and that is only 2 years old , in Gent,is used
for airb&b guests now, altough most bookings now have stalled completely;
we had many guests from
America,and also many from England and Germany.

Because of all the above, we were lucky to be able to visit him in Dublin,
and we made very nice trips into the hills and countryside, along Bono's
house, and to Howt near Dublin proper itself ,
but also to the lake's that are fed by water filtered over peat,which gives
it a brownish appearance. Magnificent lakes, great forests,not many
tourists, and if there are, friendly.
It was near Blessington, next to the Wicklow mountains.
This is not like France....!-after that we went to Buckley fx to have the
famous ribeye steaks and some German beer and a Laproigh(?) whiskey or
two?;marvellous, but the bill was rather hefty.
I have to say Anthony , you have a magnificent country.I was lucky to
visit, and most certainly i will go back.Maybe for a month or so.

I sincerely hope The north of Ireland will blend in again,altough the
troubles are not forgotten,and they still have a biting reflex.

Talking about the Eu; it looks obvious by now that we will hit the no-deal
.
Adrie

Op vr 22 mei 2020 om 14:14 schreef Ant McWatt <antmcwatt at hotmail.co.uk>:

> 'As an Englishman, i think you have a slight idea about the prices eh?,'
>
> LOL there Adrie, you'd think the now largely defunct BRITISH EMPIRE was a
> mercenary organization!  You still see the public (read 'private') school
> chums & their MPs thinking that the old Empire will magically appear when
> or if the UK leaves EU.  (Anyway, it will be only England & Wales)... the
> Scottish will be back in the EU as soon as they have given the classic
> two-fingered salute to the WESTMINISTER/ENGLISH parliament later this
> decade and I have a feeling Northern Ireland will even 'get back' with the
> rest of Irish Republic within the next decade.
>
> BTW, below is a video of the typical English 'public school graduate', it
> just gives the wider world an indication of what the average 'Englishman in
> the street' has to deal with when these retards go into government... talk
> about black comedy:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC0IJQ_s7No
>
> More seriously, it sounds like your brother has quite a well equipped
> engineering workshop to say the least but does he have a lathe?  About 18
> years ago Robert Pirsig sent me an email announcing the arrival of his new
> lathe for his workshop.  He was really excited about it because he could
> start making his own 'homemade' tools for himself as well as another lathe
> if he had desired doing so.
>
> Finally, being a rather fast driver (I nearly became a rally driver many,
> many years ago) and someone appreciating  old-fashioned luxury, I do like
> my 1960s-90s British classic cars (especially Jaguars and Rover V8s).
> Again, like older motrcycles/bikes most of the models in question would run
> better on leaded petrol but I'm afraid those days are long, long gone in
> the UK.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Ant
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9MWvgOjebo
> [https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.VvRKbYgY_7gkNGeNEnHm_gEsDh&pid=Api]<
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9MWvgOjebo>
> What’s the Greatest Machine of the 1960s…the Jaguar E-Type?<
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9MWvgOjebo>
> THE JAGUAR E-TYPE (1961) The Jaguar E-Type is a British sports car, which
> was manufactured by Jaguar Cars Ltd between 1961 and 1975. Its combination
> of beauty, high performance, and competitive pricing established the marque
> as an icon of 1960s motoring. At a time when most cars had drum brakes,
> live rear axles, and mediocre performance, the E ...
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>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Moq_Discuss <moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org> on behalf of
> Adrie Kintziger <parser666 at gmail.com>
> Sent: 19 May 2020 20:09
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> Subject: Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends
>
> Yes , indeed , my brother owns the place, and all the machines in it,we can
> weld,grind, turn, saw , whatever-, we even have an
> electrical oven to bake some parts, and a sandblaster. I'm still on the
> scouting for a nice CB 77 or a Yamaha rd 350 lc blue/white,only a matter of
> time
> that i will have one,and restore it to a showroomcondition.
> As an Englishman, i think you have a slight idea about the prices eh?,to
> give you an idea. A new electronic ignition and condensers,along with the
> infrared pick-up elements for the TX 500 Yam,=200 euro,
> a simple camchain joint link, 1 (one)= 70 euro,..a camchain without the
> joint, 184 euro, a gasket set covering all carters/cranck/cases, the heads
> and the oilchannels =210 euro;  a kit to get a refit for the oilfilter to
> make it adapt to modern ones
> =75 euro,(the old oilfilters are absent, the new have another threading) ,
> anyway these are the cheap parts. A crankshaft = 2000 euro, a camshaft 800
> but you need two. We payed 500 euro for the valves and seats only.
>
> And we have others issue's as well.
> Modern fuel contains alcohol and lacks lead. The old bikes need lead and
> pure fuel.Almost impossible to get.
> It is also very difficult to import a motor and have it approved
> legally,and it is expensive.
> If a bike has been in a shed for say 40 years,all document for it become
> valueless.
> But we like to get our nose in a jerrycan.
>
> Adrie
>
>
> Op di 19 mei 2020 om 12:47 schreef Ant McWatt <antmcwatt at hotmail.co.uk>:
>
> > Sounds a very good way to go, Adrie, in these 'times of trouble' with the
> > motorcycles/bikes and outboard boat engines.   Bet your brother and your
> > good self are glad that you have that man-cave to work in!  It's also
> nice
> > to hear in this 'age of consumerism' that you are both doing good deals
> on
> > these (sensibly engine-sized) motorbikes/cycles.  I know where I'm going
> to
> > order my next 'bike' from!!!
> >
> > Yours, thinking ahead (slightly Dynamically),
> >
> > Ant
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Moq_Discuss <moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org> on behalf of
> > Adrie Kintziger <parser666 at gmail.com>
> > Sent: 17 May 2020 19:17
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> > Subject: Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends
> >
> > The country is Belgium , but my mother was Dutch, and i live on 1 mile of
> > the Dutch border.
> > I'm currently working on a TX 500 Yamaha , Ant,i have a little
> > mancave -garage with my brother and we have 3
> > bikes on the table right now,i bought a lot of nos parts for the
> > Yamaha,still in the box tough,..he's not in a hurry ,as he is from 76.
> > The other is a gsx 55O Suzi, and one Kawa 498 ltd.I do the engines and
> the
> > elektricity, my brother paint frame and chrome.
> > If we sell a bike , mostly it is break even,or we make some bucks not
> worth
> > the effort,but we have some Belgian beer to comfort us.
> > We also restore old outboard engines, Ducati, Evinrude, Honda, two-stroke
> > and 4 stroke  , longtail/shorttail name it , its there, and the surprise-
> > they sell like candy,and they make very good money.
> >
> >
> > Op zo 17 mei 2020 om 20:44 schreef Ant McWatt <antmcwatt at hotmail.co.uk>:
> >
> > > I completely understand Adrie.  The shortage of fresh, clean water for
> > ALL
> > > of this world's population is almost certainly more critical than
> dealing
> > > with this Corona virus which, of course, could have been handled a lot
> > > better and more quickly in so many countries.  So, as such, I'm so glad
> > to
> > > see the speed camera money in your country (the Netherlands?) going to
> > > politicians and tax breaks rather than protective clothing for
> > 'front-line'
> > > workers...  BTW, anyone around here got any money to pay for my new
> > > Ferrari's petrol bill?  Running five classic cars & two motorcycles in
> > this
> > > day & age is getting a little difficult (though it was a big, big
> relief
> > to
> > > see the oil prices drop like a stone recently)!
> > >
> > > Well, I suppose the world's human population has realised some
> > fundamental
> > > East Asian philosophy truths with this virus - the penny's finally
> > dropping
> > > that we're all connected in more ways than one.  You could also add the
> > > issue of climate change; for example, every piece of litter you leave
> on
> > > the street, any water or food you waste, any trip you take in your
> > Ferrari
> > > (or whatever vehicle 'turns you on') affects EVERYONE and all
> biological
> > > patterns on this planet, sooner or later.  It's a hard lesson, a very
> > hard
> > > lesson for some, but better to happen now while human beings still
> have a
> > > chance to protect the intellectual & social patterns on this planet.
> The
> > > MOQ is great in it's own way but how many people understand it and
> apply
> > > it? I can preach all I like but the preaching is, at best, only going
> to
> > > 'reach' a few thousand people.  My 'guitar' still gently weeps...
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrTMc2i6Lzc
> > >
> > >
> > > Finally, loved that last sentence of yours:
> > >
> > > 'It's a burlesque theatre; with drunken clowns on stage.'
> > >
> > > Could have been written by Oscar Wilde IMHO...
> > >
> > > Take care,
> > >
> > > Ant
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Moq_Discuss <moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org> on behalf of
> > > Adrie Kintziger <parser666 at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: 17 May 2020 16:34
> > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends
> > >
> > > People do not like critical issues i suppose.Although i'm not a
> doomsday
> > > prepper or  a stand up Nostradamus
> > > that is handing out predictions or possible disasters i am convinced
> that
> > > the climate is changing very rapidly,the water is
> > > not in the possibility to replenish itself  anymore and there is no
> food
> > on
> > > the planet for all of us.
> > > Some countries are gearing up for war,and some economy's are so debt
> > > infested that in fact, a war would be the only way out,...
> > > How far are we away from patterns like say the Weimar republique?
> > > Printing money all the time bled out Europe, America,Russia,and only
> > China
> > > seems to have some cash left,to invest in Africa...
> > > thoughts?.... roll out--
> > >
> > > I was thinking about the idiots you mentioned , Anthony, as we also
> have
> > a
> > > bunch of them,the only thing they succeeded to arrange
> > > are speed controls,traject controls,parking fines, you name it , some
> > > cameras here rake in 300 000 Euro a month , one of them
> > > takes it a week.....but all that money was not enough to buy some
> > > protective material for the population.
> > > Still , they like to take the stand,and lecture others,preferably on an
> > > international platform like the European parliament, to inform them how
> > > wrong they are.
> > > Its a burlesque theather; with drunken clowns on stage.
> > >
> > > Adrie
> > >
> > >
> > > Op zo 17 mei 2020 om 05:42 schreef Ant McWatt <antmcwatt at hotmail.co.uk
> >:
> > >
> > > > Interesting times, hey?
> > > >
> > > > As Bill Hicks would say 'It times like this, you see people's (and
> > > > co(u)ntries) genuine colo(u)rs!' Heh, heh, heh...
> > > >
> > > > Fortunately, where I live there's no known Corona Virus infections
> but
> > I
> > > > look around the world and can see quite a difference of Quality in
> how
> > > this
> > > > relatively minor infection (if it had seen off a billion people by
> this
> > > > stage - I'd be concerned - it's no where near that...) has been
> > regarded
> > > &
> > > > treated.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder which co(u)ntries have had the best policies to deal wirh
> it?
> > > > South Korea?   New Zealand?  Sweden?  What's YOUR opinon in this
> > regard?
> > > >  I know it isn't the US let alone the UK.  In fact it's laughable
> here
> > -
> > > we
> > > > have some clown in southern England called 'Mr Johnson' thinking
> he's a
> > > > prime minister and who got the virus!  LOL!  That made my year (or at
> > > least
> > > > a month) comedy-wise.  I love looking at his latest videos now - witb
> > the
> > > > sound off and listening to a certain song by RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE
> > > (I'll
> > > > give you a hint it begins with FU).   More seriously, I wish people
> > like
> > > > him & Trump would just go away and retire on Richard Branson's
> > island...
> > > > think what Mark Twain said about people wanting to become leaders?!!
> > > >  (Never mind, I had to deal with Punk in the 1970s and the new
> > Romantics
> > > > plus the SMITHS & Thatcher in the 1980s so it has been worse).
> > > >
> > > > I leave a final thought for you to ponder... is all this Corona-19
> > > > infection media blitz simply deflecting the (so-called) general
> public
> > > from
> > > > more critical issues?
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards to all; sleep tight,
> > > >
> > > > Ant
> > > >
> > > > P.S. Hope you enjoyed your European travels Krimel.  Sorry you felt
> > Horse
> > > > & me had betrayed you by revealing your 'real' name.  But 'get real',
> > do
> > > > you think anyone is THAT interested?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Moq_Discuss <moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org> on behalf
> of
> > > > Jan-Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com>
> > > > Sent: 25 April 2020 20:35
> > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends
> > > >
> > > > Hello everyone of you MOQers
> > > >
> > > > Great that this line is still open!
> > > >
> > > > I am well, playing my accordion and working on the sequel of Money
> and
> > > the
> > > > Art...
> > > >
> > > > best wishes to
> > > > you all
> > > >
> > > > > 25 apr. 2020 kl. 21:42 skrev Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello old friends,
> > > > >
> > > > > A couple years ago I sold everything, gave away what I couldn't
> sell,
> > > and
> > > > > moved from Chicago to Florida. I bought a shack perched
> precariously
> > > > close
> > > > > to a canal in the swamps just outside Satsuma where I spend my days
> > > > sitting
> > > > > in the sunshine reading and taking photos of gators, otters, and
> blue
> > > > > herons. I was delighted the other day to see a reference to Zen and
> > the
> > > > Art
> > > > > of Motorcycle Maintenance in Quichotte (pronounced Key-Shot) by
> > Salman
> > > > > Rushdie but then again Rushdie seems to read everything.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am no longer writing as much as I did up north. I think part of
> > that
> > > > has
> > > > > to do with how it is sunny and warm and pleasant here even in
> > December
> > > > and
> > > > > January and February whereas in Chicago the weather was intent on
> > > killing
> > > > > me six months out of the year. I also like to think what I do write
> > now
> > > > has
> > > > > more quality than the torrent of words I once produced though in
> > that I
> > > > am
> > > > > most likely fooling myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am also exercising quite a lot these days: walking, biking,
> > running,
> > > > > swimming. I daily take a chug from the fountain of youth and dammit
> > if
> > > it
> > > > > doesn't seem to be working. Listening to lots of music both new and
> > > old,
> > > > > catch myself cranking up the volume. Miles Davis seems particularly
> > > > apropos
> > > > > to these long and sunny Florida afternoons.
> > > > >
> > > > > Life is good.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > > A rip tide is raging
> > > > > And the life guard is away
> > > > > But the ocean doesn't want me today
> > > > > The ocean doesn't want me today
> > > > > (Tom Waits)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 2:11 PM Adrie Kintziger <
> > parser666 at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi Matt , and Krimel,and probably more of the usual suspects.. ,in
> > the
> > > > >> run-up to my retirement and my daughter buying a house that i had
> to
> > > do
> > > > up
> > > > >> myself (3 yrs work),
> > > > >> i halted my postings to the list.After some time it went
> > > > silent.Probably i
> > > > >> was peeled out of the onion. Since then, i never checked anymore,
> > nor
> > > > did i
> > > > >> hear anything.
> > > > >> So you are the first ,Matt.
> > > > >> I still read many books.I fish extensively.Still riding my bicycle
> > > > daily,
> > > > >> do about 12000 miles a year.I have the bulk of time now.
> > > > >> But its difficult to ride my normal tracks under lockdown and with
> > the
> > > > >> Dutch borders closed up-normally i always ride in the Netherlands,
> > but
> > > > have
> > > > >> to stay in Belgium nowadays.
> > > > >> We cannot fish in the canal under the lockdown,and they are
> > patrolling
> > > > the
> > > > >> little forest we have there , so the only thing we can do for now
> is
> > > > >> cleaning , pruning the trees and
> > > > >> just sit over there , on some distance from each other. Its our
> > > personal
> > > > >> tranquility base , so we have to guard it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I do not know where you live Matt, and Krimel,i hope its a
> location
> > > that
> > > > >> allows you to weather this viral storms ...
> > > > >> Missed you all, Krimel included.
> > > > >> Adrie
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Op za 25 apr. 2020 om 19:36 schreef Scribe <Scribe at club-hub.com>:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi Matt,
> > > > >>> Good to hear from you. I too have reflected on the old day on the
> > > MoQ.
> > > > In
> > > > >>> my
> > > > >>> memory they take shape as Good old days in a way few reflection
> on
> > > the
> > > > >> past
> > > > >>> do these days.
> > > > >>> I left the MoQ after Horse and Ant threaten to reveal my true
> name,
> > > > >> which I
> > > > >>> thought was a betrayal of trust. I went to graduate school in
> > > > >> communication
> > > > >>> but dropped out after a six years as an ABD with a master's,
> mostly
> > > > >> because
> > > > >>> I got a full time teaching gig. I mostly taught Psychology but
> also
> > > > >> classes
> > > > >>> in Communication and Philosophy. I retired last year and spent
> > couple
> > > > of
> > > > >>> months in Europe riding trains with my wife. We had similar plans
> > > this
> > > > >> year
> > > > >>> but they have been delayed...
> > > > >>> There is a serious irony for me with respect to the MoQ. When I
> > > entered
> > > > >>> graduate school, I was averaging four or five page of writing a
> day
> > > for
> > > > >> the
> > > > >>> community. Graduate school gave me writer's block. It was too
> > > focused,
> > > > >> too
> > > > >>> controlled, it had to be done. Don't get me wrong I wrote a lot
> for
> > > > >>> graduate
> > > > >>> school but it was not for fun and other than being an asshole on
> > > > >> Facebook I
> > > > >>> don't do it much these days.
> > > > >>> Anyway, love me or hate me I miss all of you, well most of you,
> > > > fiercely.
> > > > >>> Krimel
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> From: Moq_Discuss <moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org> On
> > Behalf
> > > Of
> > > > >>> Matt
> > > > >>> Kundert
> > > > >>> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 11:41 AM
> > > > >>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > >>> Subject: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hi Everyone,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> It's been three years since I've checked this email and five
> since
> > I
> > > > >> wrote
> > > > >>> to the listserve.  I was just talking to a friend, outside, 8
> feet
> > > > away,
> > > > >> on
> > > > >>> a fold-out chair I brought with me, and she brought up ZMM.  We
> > > > chatted a
> > > > >>> little while about it, and am going to give her one of the many
> > > copies
> > > > I
> > > > >>> still have squirreled away.  I haven't read it since I taught it
> in
> > > > 2014,
> > > > >>> but I still think it is one of the most remarkably structured
> > books.
> > > > >> I've
> > > > >>> been teaching "close reading" for over 10 years now, and its
> > > > >> responsiveness
> > > > >>> is a sign of its enduring quality of thought and feeling.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> But that's just, maybe, the required nostalgic overture.  The
> real
> > > > >>> nostalgia
> > > > >>> I wanted to toss into this still pool was a Hello to any of my
> old
> > > > >> friends
> > > > >>> and interlocutors who still receive these emails.  I still feel
> > that
> > > my
> > > > >>> participation many years ago was integral to my intellectual and
> > > > >> stylistic
> > > > >>> growth.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I hope everyone is well.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Best,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Matt
> > > > >>> Former Apostate
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