[MD] Future of MOQ

Wed May 27 19:22:58 PDT 2020

Adrie!

You're correct... Roger Waters is really showing his age now.  I hope he resolves his 'issues' with David Gilmour soon.  LOVE (with a good dose of patience!) is all... easier said to say than do, I know.

Otherwise, I must admit I didn't like much PINK FLOYD material after their DARK SIDE of THE MOON from 1973'; I didn't like the vibe of the 1979 version of MOTHER; I don't like the vibe of the recent version either though IMHO it's a better, sharper production.  I won't be going out of my way to hear it again though...

I mean the BEATLES could be quite dark & haunting too (e.g. I WANT YOU & ELEANOR RIGBY) but they'd also like a laugh (e.g. YELLOW SUBMARINE & YOU KNOW MY NAME).  The Fabs also have a warmth in their production absent from that clinical sound that PINK FLOYD pursued from around 1970.  Perfectly played but heartless tracks concentrating on depressive, morbid issues.  In other words, I think you should try and avoid taking yourself too seriously or your material whether you've the height of rock music or the academic world.

"Fun is the one thing that money can't buy!",

Ant

P.S. Welcome to Slaggers:

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Subject: Re: [MD] Future of MOQ

Anthony , after reading all this, i simply could not resist to share a
message/announcement placed on you tube some days ago.
Roger Waters himself, complaining he has no access to the Pink Floyd
website, clearly owned and hosted by David Gimour.
As an Englishman, i do not have to remind you of the story's behind
it......  it is a really very sad message, and he looks very frail and
lost the power of his voice and the sharpness of his previous mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_x3penXBFU

This new version of Mother is also on youtube. The musicians have to
support him very much.

--Shine on you crazy diamond!!!

Op wo 27 mei 2020 om 00:16 schreef Ant McWatt <antmcwatt at hotmail.co.uk>:

> Jan-Anders,
>
> Here's a link to that 1999 paper you mentioned by ERIC PRIEZKALNS and
> myself:
>
> http://www.quantonics.com/Anthony_McWatts_MoQ_Paper.html
>
> Otherwise, as I said previously, the 'MOQ & Time' paper (more or less
> anyway) can be found in the appendix of the 'Pirisg PhD PDF' from 2011.  If
> you want a copy let me know off-line!  However, don't you have a copyof
> this at hand anyway?
>
> Sadly, it's other people who are/have been 'blocking' full access to
> robertpirsig.org; (such as Will Heasman &  Ian Glendinning - the previous
> & present website 'hosts'/'IT administrators') over the last three to four
> years...  Like you I just want to get on with updating robertpirsig.org
> and 'taking the MOQ further' but there's little I can do about it for now
> if they're respectively having a breakdown/break-up or simply too
> busy/looking after elderlty parents or whatever the latest excuse it is...
> There's an old phrase: 'If you want something done well, do it yourself'!!!
> 😉
>
> Kind regards all anyway,
>
> P.S. Nowadays, I think of this song when thinking of people like Will &
> Ian (and a few other 'choice' people - some a lot worse than those two btw
> - I've had the misfortune to encounter in 'The World of the MOQ' over the
> years):
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV4mg9DMn7k
> [https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.TGqiieqmF_eGfogZL0G62wHgFo&pid=Api]<
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV4mg9DMn7k>
> 'The Ballad Of John And Yoko' By The Beatles (Cover By Amy Slattery)<
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV4mg9DMn7k>
> Hope you enjoy this one! :)
> www.youtube.com<http://www.youtube.com>
>
>
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> [MD] Future of MOQ
> Jan Andersson jananderses at telia.com
> Sat May 23 05:20:43 PDT 2020
>
>
> All
>
> After these mourning years my mind's a bit rusty. I forgot to also mention
> the essay The Role of Evolution, Time and Order in Robert Pirsig’s
> "Metaphysics of Quality” by ANTHONY MCWATT of Liverpool University, & ERIC
> PRIEZKALNS with Responses by ROBERT M. PIRSIG JANUARY 1999
>
> If Ant will give acess to the audience of this, and -The MOQ and Time-, I
> think that it will be a good start for a constructive discussion here. If
> they, by chance, is considered obsolete, what will there be else to start
> from?
>
> My own book about Money (Time is..? :-) isn’t mentioned anywhere and with
> it's massive lack of response I think you can leave that.. excerpt one
> little quotation in it from Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan ch XIII:
> --- For such is the nature of men, that howsoever they may acknowledge
> many others to be more witty, or more eloquent, or more learned;
> Yet they will hardly believe there be many so wise as themselves: For they
> see their own wit at hand, and other mens at a distance. ---
>
> During the years we have been talking around so many aspects on MOQ and
> Metaphysics. Thousands of intense threads about SOM vs MOQ and so on.
>
> Now it is time to look further. The Corona crisis is pointing at some
> interesting aspects.
> There are 4 layers in the MOQ perspective of the evolution. Viruses and
> political issues housed at different levels. One applicable issue to point
> at the MOQ-perspective could be like this: Why is it impossible to argue
> with a virus?
>
> –
>
> Without time there will be no future.
>
> Jan-Anders
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