[MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends

Sat May 30 08:55:57 PDT 2020

Hello, Dan... after this posting it took me some time to find good material
on Florida,but now i have , i have
downloaded the serie "Wild Florida" made by National Geographic, i was
stunned to see the manatees
and their natural resting places in the Crystal river, awesome!, also the
environment is really depicted very well.
I knew this Manatees from the Local zoo here , in Antwerp,although they are
not there anymore nowadays.

Given what you and Krimel wrote about black and white, and the signs still
there when you were young,...i did not
give it much attention at that moment, but now with the unfolding events
with the death of this latest victim in the media
all the time,and after everyone here became aware that something is
terribly wrong regarding the death of the jogger that
was shot whilst jogging....This all did put things in a whole other
perspective right now.my awareness is completely different now.
I can see with my own eyes what you and Krimel wanted to tell....

Adrie

Op di 5 mei 2020 om 03:15 schreef Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com>:

> Hello Adrie,
>
> The Confederacy lost the war but the idea beneath its foundation, or rather
> the social patterns upon which it rests, are as prevalent today as they
> were a hundred and fifty years ago. Just so you know, I am not a southern
> man. I was raised in the north. I like to think my views on race and hate
> and prejudice are more, how would you put it... evolved. But I am a white
> man and as such I realize that I have availed myself, even if unwittingly,
> to a privilege not afforded a person of color in this country.
>
> I was just listening to a song by Nina Simone (I love Nina Simone) called
> Strange Fruit. Billie Holiday also recorded the song though personally I
> prefer Nina's version. It was written by  Abel Meeropol (a Jewish American)
> back in the day after he saw a photograph of the lynching of Thomas Shipp
> and Abraham Smith which took place in the southern USA in August of 1930.
> This fear, this hate, this total disregard for human life is what the
> Confederate flag represented, and still represents, whether those who fly
> it realize that fact or not.
>
> It would be easy to blame those who hold these views, to label them as
> white supremacists, as bigots and racists. But they did not get that way in
> a vacuum. The culture in which they came of age inculcated in those people
> a rage against anything that does not conform to their own views. Do I
> dislike them on a personal level? Yes. I cannot help it. But my dislike
> isn't going to alter their way of thinking. Not one iota.
>
> So what's the answer?
>
> Perhaps to live in their world without being part of that world. If a
> neighbor needs a hand fixing a dock, there I am, waist deep in the canal,
> helping. Maybe their mower isn't working and their yard's gotten away from
> them. I got time to mow it for them on my rider. Could be I'm out for a
> walk, I notice a man trimming his trees, and it seems to me he might need a
> hand. I stop and give it. When I look up, there it is. That Confederate
> flag flapping in the breeze.
>
> The one thing I never do is accept an invitation to dinner when the work is
> done, or even sit down for a beer. Our views of the world are so divergent
> that all we are going to do is piss each other off. When I look at a
> person, I like to think I see that person, not the color of their skin or
> their nationality. Then again, I also realize I am part of a culture that
> revels in xenophobia. The tendency to hate those who are not like me is
> always there, bubbling and boiling just below the surface.
>
> Are the poor and uneducated more likely to harbor deep-seated prejudices?
> Absolutely. And this works both ways, work to create a vicious cycle of
> poverty and want that continues generation after generation. So here in the
> US you get inner-city ghettos where most of the inhabitants are
> white-hating blacks, and vast series of white suburban villages where you
> can drive for hours without seeing one black person. Still, I think this
> poverty has more to do with absence of empathy than it does with lack of
> money.
>
> Anyway.
>
> It was very warm and sunny here today. I pulled on my hat, grabbed the
> camera and tripod, and took the boat out this afternoon though I am not a
> fisherman. I can't stand the way they look at me and scream when you remove
> the hook. But I was able to snap some nice photos of a gator I caught
> napping with the sunshine on his (her?) shoulders while perched on an old
> beach log that was half submerged in the swamp. At least I assumed it was a
> beach tree, what with the squiggles and nonsensical runes written upon it
> by beetles boring beneath the bark it once wore.
>
> I could almost read them.
>
> Take care,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:47 PM Adrie Kintziger <parser666 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi , Dan, you are probably right,about it all to be a matter of
> > perspective,and i used some days to
> > reconsider Krimel's toughts, along with yours , and took the liberty of
> > downloading "The birth Of A Nation", to
> > better understand the scenery Krimel implied with the confederate flag
> > story-and to have some of the visual
> > stills that are implied in your words.Basically it_is_a matter of
> > perspective, but it does not unfold into the eye of
> > the beholder if a person is not receptive or pre-occupied.To give you an
> > example that there is more to it, there
> > is a program here in Belgium on the cable, with Wayne Carini selling cars
> > at Amelia Island, at auctions there.
> > I always watch it , for the scenery, and he is the spitting image of my
> > late father.But i know how nice these Island are
> > and here in the Netherlands we also have islands like that, called the
> > "Waddeneilanden", also with the best
> > beaches in the world and some even without cars.Very beautiful,extremely
> > populair as wintering den. Also they
> > have a similar stretch of water between them and the mainland, full of
> > eddy's and fish and currents.
> > I also took the liberty , yesterday to take in some touristic info about
> > Amelia Island and its surroundings, on one
> > of the site's they had some arrangements specially for military
> > veterans,and group discounts if they were to bring their
> > friends ....tought back at Krimels line of reasoning with the confederate
> > flags and all;....the term blackwater emerged in
> > my mind, and that would not have happened without Krimels induction.
> >
> > So the matter of perspective here,well, if a person, say like Krimel , or
> > me or you would have the cash to buy a condo on the beach
> > on Amelia or West Palm , probably then, the story would be different from
> > the Orange grove's with the smudge pots or the phosphate
> > strip mining.
> >
> > They allowed fishing today again,so i was out with my Bosnian friends
> onto
> > the forest to fish all day and had a great catch, it really
> > made my day.
> >
> > Toughts , Dan?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Op do 30 apr. 2020 om 06:06 schreef Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Hi Krimel,
> > >
> > > Awesome of you to write, and thanks for the welcome. I am (nearly) a
> > > lifelong resident of Chicago where yes, humans have also invaded. Like
> > > Florida, Chicago sits just a few feet above the water table. But unlike
> > > Florida, the winters are brutal. So when the temps here drop way down
> > into
> > > the 70s and 80s and I need to pull a jacket on, well, I feel I am
> > settling
> > > in nicely.
> > >
> > > Many of my neighbors here in the swamp are native Floridians and yes I
> do
> > > see a lot of Confederate flags waving happily in the breeze. We seem to
> > get
> > > along fine, however, even though I'm that guy who talks sort of funny.
> On
> > > the other hand, I stay far away from the gated communities that tend to
> > > proliferate nearer to the cities, like World Golf Village. Not that
> > they'd
> > > let me in anyhow.
> > >
> > > For me, Florida is about reinventing yourself. Not purposely, perhaps,
> > but
> > > more along the lines of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance where
> > the
> > > narrator says: The real cycle you're working on is a cycle called
> > yourself.
> > >
> > > I like to think perhaps there are still places in the world where a
> > person
> > > can do or be anything they want, or even not do or not be anything at
> all
> > > if that's what they want, and maybe this is one of those places. But
> then
> > > again perhaps it is all simply a matter of perspective.
> > >
> > > Thanks again for writing,
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 1:56 PM Scribe <Scribe at club-hub.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dan and Adrie,
> > > > As a nearly lifelong Floridian, (It does hurt admitting that) I can
> > > testify
> > > > that Florida has long been home to invasive species. Dan mentions a
> > few,
> > > > but
> > > > by far the most pernicious is humans. Today there are 10 times as
> many
> > of
> > > > them in the state as when I entered elementary school. There is a
> > serious
> > > > infestation southwest of Dan called the Villages where Conservative
> > > > northerners retire with their Stepford wives to ride golf carts and
> > > > complain
> > > > about being taxed for schools. Sadly, unlike bears the Game and Fresh
> > > Water
> > > > Fish Commission cannot open a season on them. Dan is right there a
> > still
> > > > many wild places here. I hope you are not too far from civilization
> as
> > > > native Floridians are a wild and crazy bunch, many are still fighting
> > the
> > > > Civil War. As you move away from cities the number of Confederate
> flags
> > > > rises exponentially as do cars on blocks, roofless trailers, bad
> teeth,
> > > > body
> > > > odor, and inbreeding.
> > > > And the heat. Did you mention the heat? High 80s is a cold snap. We
> > sweat
> > > > from late March through February.
> > > > As a lad I grew up across from an orange grove, down a dead-end road
> > > from a
> > > > truck stop. At night we would fall asleep on sweaty sheets to the
> groan
> > > of
> > > > big rigs grinding through the gears headed north on two lanes of
> black
> > > > topped US 98. My mother still lives in the same house but now there
> are
> > > > hotels on either side of her house, a McDonalds and Hooter's in her
> > back
> > > > yard. There is a mall on one end of her dead-end road and an
> interstate
> > > at
> > > > the other.
> > > > There was little of no air conditioning back in the day and mosquitos
> > > > usually found a way in through the open screened windows. We took
> some
> > > > grandkids to D.C. a couple of years ago and in the hall of statutes
> in
> > > the
> > > > Capitol each state gets to put two statues, usually of someone famous
> > or
> > > > notable from the state. One of ours was John Gorrie, which drew a big
> > > > "Huh?"
> > > > from everyone. Until it is pointed out that this is the dude who
> > invented
> > > > Air Conditioning. Without him Florida would return to the gators,
> > > skeeters,
> > > > and Seminoles in less than a decade.
> > > > As you can might guess, I am not on the Florida Tourism Commission.
> > That
> > > > said, welcome to Florida Dan. Glad you found a quiet spot.
> > > > We visited near Adrie's neck of the wood last year, Brussels,
> > Amsterdam,
> > > > Copenhagen and Hamberg.... We stayed at a hotel near the Amsterdam
> > > airport,
> > > > which turned out to be farther away than I might have liked, but
> > > Amsterdam
> > > > is crazy. It had never previously occurred to me that you could be
> > killed
> > > > by
> > > > a bicycle. We went to the flower auction and Keukenhof. Beautiful
> > places,
> > > > and what a concept, a theme park without animation. We did stray a
> bit
> > > into
> > > > the wild with a tour of a cheese/clog factory in the middle of
> nowhere.
> > > We
> > > > also visited Oxford a couple of years ago to see the site of Ant's
> > > > graduation debacle. Oh and last summer we drove through Bozeman and
> saw
> > > the
> > > > buildings where Pirsig taught. They also have a small computer museum
> > in
> > > > Bozeman with and Apple I, signed by Steve Wozniak and one of only two
> > > > signature in the world of Ada Lovelace!
> > > > You might noted that my previous distain for tourism has morphed into
> > > full
> > > > blown adoption of the lifestyle. Call it hypocrisy but in today's
> > > climate,
> > > > I
> > > > write it off to contagion.
> > > > Starting in April we were supposed to be headed back to Europe for a
> > > couple
> > > > of months but got stranded with the Covid. Damn, there was a tour of
> > > Greece
> > > > in there. I was hoping for a touch of Arete, or maybe stock tips from
> > the
> > > > oracle at Delphi...
> > > > It really is a joy hearing from all of you. With any luck more will
> > chime
> > > > in
> > > > and who know what might happen.
> > > > Krimel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Moq_Discuss <moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org> On Behalf
> Of
> > > Dan
> > > > Glover
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:59 PM
> > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends
> > > >
> > > > Hello Adrie,
> > > >
> > > > Though there's been millions of people moving into Florida, there are
> > > still
> > > > many wild places here where plants and animals thrive. Last summer
> they
> > > had
> > > > to shut down the Ocala National Forest just south of where I live on
> > > > account
> > > > of the black bear population growing so much and possibly posing a
> > danger
> > > > to
> > > > human visitors.
> > > >
> > > > That's interesting about starlings. I was not aware they are
> originally
> > > > from
> > > > Europe. Here in Florida there are many invasive species that seem to
> > > find a
> > > > niche in the ecosystem and become naturalized. Water hyacinths with
> > their
> > > > thick woody stems are thought to have come from ballast tanks on
> > steamers
> > > > back in the day. Armadillos were originally brought to Jacksonville
> in
> > a
> > > > laboratory setting to study leprosy and escaped into the wild. Now
> they
> > > are
> > > > everywhere. Same with domesticated pigs that are now wild boars that
> > grow
> > > > to
> > > > enormous size. I can hear them alongside the shore when I take the
> boat
> > > out
> > > > into the swamps.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 3:15 AM Adrie Kintziger <parser666 at gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dan, most animals are returning here altough they were nearly
> pushed
> > > > > to extinction by the use of some agricultural supplements--,there
> are
> > > > > many apple orchards here , and the farmers used Chloormequat for
> too
> > > > > long.When i was young the swallows broke the electricitylines by
> > their
> > > > > sheer weight.Same story for the starlings,they disappeared for
> nearly
> > > > > 40 years; only for now to come back.Yesterday we had a deer here at
> > my
> > > > > house,not seen in the wild in what, -50 years.!
> > > > > Strangely, but the falcons here never left,partly because they
> > adapted
> > > > > to the urbanisation,and fed on domestic pigeons.
> > > > > We also have harriers.
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_marsh_harrier
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you know the starlings in America are immigrants from
> > > > > Europe?...they were brought to New York at first.
> > > > > They even have migratory behavier there..
> > > > >
> > > > > Adrie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Op zo 26 apr. 2020 om 21:51 schreef Dan Glover <
> daneglover at gmail.com
> > >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Adrie!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, long time. Cormorants we have in abundance too. You can
> always
> > > > > > spot them perched ominously on a branch with wings displayed
> > > > > > menacingly. When
> > > > > I
> > > > > > first saw them standing like that, I thought they must be angry
> > with
> > > > > > me over some perceived slight. Of course, all they are really
> doing
> > > > > > is
> > > > > drying
> > > > > > their feathers since they lack the oil producing glands of other
> > > > > waterfowl
> > > > > > like ducks and such.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One blue heron frequents the canal here during the winter.  You
> see
> > > > > him/her
> > > > > > coming down out of the sky like a falling mountain. It then
> stands
> > > > > > for hours on end staring intently at the water. The intensity of
> > its
> > > > > > glare is rather startling, eyes never blinking. Then, all of a
> > > > > > sudden, you hear a splash and it comes rising up with a fish
> > > > > > wriggling in its beak. I am
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > if I had koi, they would be long gone by now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The otters here live mainly out on the rivers and swamps where
> vast
> > > > > > mats
> > > > > of
> > > > > > water hyacinths grow along the banks. Manatees also enjoy
> munching
> > > > > > on the hyacinths as well. Last spring, a mamma manatee and her
> calf
> > > > > > visited my canal for a couple days. You see them mostly out on
> the
> > > > rivers, though.
> > > > > > Same with the blue herons. Lots of them out in the swamps, along
> > > > > > with egrets and ospreys and eagles. I've noticed peregrine
> falcons
> > as
> > > > well.
> > > > > You
> > > > > > can always tell them by their high-pitched screech.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 4:34 AM Adrie Kintziger
> > > > > > <parser666 at gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello , Dan, long time no see..
> > > > > > > The blue herons along with the white are a real pest here.Two
> > > > > > > years
> > > > > ago a
> > > > > > > blu heron was able to
> > > > > > > steal most of my koi-he only left one in the pond.That one is
> > > > > > > still
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > now, with some goldfish.I had
> > > > > > > to cover the whole pond with nets on a permanent base.Another
> > pest
> > > > > > > here
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > the great cormorant which
> > > > > > > is a special guest at the canal here.They own it!.
> > > > > > > Few days ago the first otter was spotted in Zelzate in 50 years
> > or
> > > > > > so,..in
> > > > > > > the yacht harbour.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Adrie
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Op za 25 apr. 2020 om 21:42 schreef Dan Glover <
> > > daneglover at gmail.com
> > > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello old friends,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A couple years ago I sold everything, gave away what I
> couldn't
> > > > > > > > sell,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > moved from Chicago to Florida. I bought a shack perched
> > > > > > > > precariously
> > > > > > > close
> > > > > > > > to a canal in the swamps just outside Satsuma where I spend
> my
> > > > > > > > days
> > > > > > > sitting
> > > > > > > > in the sunshine reading and taking photos of gators, otters,
> > and
> > > > > > > > blue herons. I was delighted the other day to see a reference
> > to
> > > > > > > > Zen and
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > Art
> > > > > > > > of Motorcycle Maintenance in Quichotte (pronounced Key-Shot)
> by
> > > > > Salman
> > > > > > > > Rushdie but then again Rushdie seems to read everything.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am no longer writing as much as I did up north. I think
> part
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > to do with how it is sunny and warm and pleasant here even in
> > > > > December
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > January and February whereas in Chicago the weather was
> intent
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > killing
> > > > > > > > me six months out of the year. I also like to think what I do
> > > > > > > > write
> > > > > now
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > more quality than the torrent of words I once produced though
> > in
> > > > > that I
> > > > > > > am
> > > > > > > > most likely fooling myself.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am also exercising quite a lot these days: walking, biking,
> > > > > running,
> > > > > > > > swimming. I daily take a chug from the fountain of youth and
> > > > > > > > dammit
> > > > > if
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > doesn't seem to be working. Listening to lots of music both
> new
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > old,
> > > > > > > > catch myself cranking up the volume. Miles Davis seems
> > > > > > > > particularly
> > > > > > > apropos
> > > > > > > > to these long and sunny Florida afternoons.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Life is good.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A rip tide is raging
> > > > > > > > And the life guard is away
> > > > > > > > But the ocean doesn't want me today The ocean doesn't want me
> > > > > > > > today (Tom Waits)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 2:11 PM Adrie Kintziger
> > > > > > > > <parser666 at gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Matt , and Krimel,and probably more of the usual
> > suspects..
> > > > > > > > > ,in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > run-up to my retirement and my daughter buying a house
> that i
> > > > > > > > > had
> > > > > to
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > myself (3 yrs work),
> > > > > > > > > i halted my postings to the list.After some time it went
> > > > > > > silent.Probably
> > > > > > > > i
> > > > > > > > > was peeled out of the onion. Since then, i never checked
> > > > > > > > > anymore,
> > > > > nor
> > > > > > > > did i
> > > > > > > > > hear anything.
> > > > > > > > > So you are the first ,Matt.
> > > > > > > > > I still read many books.I fish extensively.Still riding my
> > > > > > > > > bicycle
> > > > > > > daily,
> > > > > > > > > do about 12000 miles a year.I have the bulk of time now.
> > > > > > > > > But its difficult to ride my normal tracks under lockdown
> and
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > Dutch borders closed up-normally i always ride in the
> > > > > > > > > Netherlands,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > to stay in Belgium nowadays.
> > > > > > > > > We cannot fish in the canal under the lockdown,and they are
> > > > > > patrolling
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > little forest we have there , so the only thing we can do
> for
> > > > > > > > > now
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > cleaning , pruning the trees and just sit over there , on
> > some
> > > > > > > > > distance from each other. Its our
> > > > > > > personal
> > > > > > > > > tranquility base , so we have to guard it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I do not know where you live Matt, and Krimel,i hope its a
> > > > > > > > > location
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > allows you to weather this viral storms ...
> > > > > > > > > Missed you all, Krimel included.
> > > > > > > > > Adrie
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Op za 25 apr. 2020 om 19:36 schreef Scribe <
> > > Scribe at club-hub.com
> > > > >:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Matt,
> > > > > > > > > > Good to hear from you. I too have reflected on the old
> day
> > > > > > > > > > on the
> > > > > > > MoQ.
> > > > > > > > In
> > > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > memory they take shape as Good old days in a way few
> > > > > > > > > > reflection
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > past
> > > > > > > > > > do these days.
> > > > > > > > > > I left the MoQ after Horse and Ant threaten to reveal my
> > > > > > > > > > true
> > > > > name,
> > > > > > > > > which I
> > > > > > > > > > thought was a betrayal of trust. I went to graduate
> school
> > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > communication
> > > > > > > > > > but dropped out after a six years as an ABD with a
> > master's,
> > > > > mostly
> > > > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > > > I got a full time teaching gig. I mostly taught
> Psychology
> > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > classes
> > > > > > > > > > in Communication and Philosophy. I retired last year and
> > > > > > > > > > spent
> > > > > > couple
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > months in Europe riding trains with my wife. We had
> similar
> > > > > > > > > > plans
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > year
> > > > > > > > > > but they have been delayed...
> > > > > > > > > > There is a serious irony for me with respect to the MoQ.
> > > > > > > > > > When I
> > > > > > > entered
> > > > > > > > > > graduate school, I was averaging four or five page of
> > > > > > > > > > writing a
> > > > > day
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > community. Graduate school gave me writer's block. It was
> > > > > > > > > > too
> > > > > > > focused,
> > > > > > > > > too
> > > > > > > > > > controlled, it had to be done. Don't get me wrong I
> wrote a
> > > > > > > > > > lot
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > graduate
> > > > > > > > > > school but it was not for fun and other than being an
> > > > > > > > > > asshole on
> > > > > > > > > Facebook I
> > > > > > > > > > don't do it much these days.
> > > > > > > > > > Anyway, love me or hate me I miss all of you, well most
> of
> > > > > > > > > > you,
> > > > > > > > fiercely.
> > > > > > > > > > Krimel
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Moq_Discuss <moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org
> >
> > On
> > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > > Of
> > > > > > > > > > Matt
> > > > > > > > > > Kundert
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 11:41 AM
> > > > > > > > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It's been three years since I've checked this email and
> > five
> > > > > since
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > wrote
> > > > > > > > > > to the listserve.  I was just talking to a friend,
> outside,
> > > > > > > > > > 8
> > > > > feet
> > > > > > > > away,
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > a fold-out chair I brought with me, and she brought up
> ZMM.
> > > > > > > > > > We
> > > > > > > > chatted a
> > > > > > > > > > little while about it, and am going to give her one of
> the
> > > > > > > > > > many
> > > > > > > copies
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > still have squirreled away.  I haven't read it since I
> > > > > > > > > > taught it
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > > 2014,
> > > > > > > > > > but I still think it is one of the most remarkably
> > > > > > > > > > structured
> > > > > > books.
> > > > > > > > > I've
> > > > > > > > > > been teaching "close reading" for over 10 years now, and
> > its
> > > > > > > > > responsiveness
> > > > > > > > > > is a sign of its enduring quality of thought and feeling.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But that's just, maybe, the required nostalgic overture.
> > > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > real
> > > > > > > > > > nostalgia
> > > > > > > > > > I wanted to toss into this still pool was a Hello to any
> of
> > > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > old
> > > > > > > > > friends
> > > > > > > > > > and interlocutors who still receive these emails.  I
> still
> > > > > > > > > > feel
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > participation many years ago was integral to my
> > intellectual
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > stylistic
> > > > > > > > > > growth.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I hope everyone is well.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Matt
> > > > > > > > > > Former Apostate
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