[MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends

Robert Warlov poetzzz at gmail.com
Mon Dec 8 00:22:00 PST 2025 

I see that the year is right but it is some 8 months old. I'm one of those
early members you never offered much.

I discovered recently that "Dynamic Quality" has a rational definition.


M.T.™

On Sat, May 23, 2020, 9:26 AM Adrie Kintziger <parser666 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes he does own a small lathe,although we do not need it very often,we use
> it to sand  round parts and also do drill precision holes
> that need work on the inside,but basically , if we need something of high
> precision, we simply order it in China, as they have very good services for
> turning work-on demand , and cheap as pak.
> But a lathe is a bit like a motorcycle for many people, it is the last
> thing to purchase and the first thing to kick out.
>
> My son resides and works in Dublin  now , Anthony; he develops apps for
> Linkedin, which is a daughter of Microsoft, and he is very happy there,
> very good company with magnificent amenities (lol),a perfect on-demand
> restaurant that would fit a 5 star hotel, coffeebars, massages at one's
> desk on demand (!)
> and a salary that would make most people doubt themselves.......the only
> minor point is the rent for a small apartment in central Dublin , in the
> old branches of the port
> that stretches into the town,located on the water, on pole's and concrete
> slabs.The high rise is on that slabs, the water flows underneath the
> apartment; which is very nice!!
> (2200) euro/month!, but if one compares it to what he makes....
> The apartment he has here,and that is only 2 years old , in Gent,is used
> for airb&b guests now, altough most bookings now have stalled completely;
> we had many guests from
> America,and also many from England and Germany.
>
> Because of all the above, we were lucky to be able to visit him in Dublin,
> and we made very nice trips into the hills and countryside, along Bono's
> house, and to Howt near Dublin proper itself ,
> but also to the lake's that are fed by water filtered over peat,which gives
> it a brownish appearance. Magnificent lakes, great forests,not many
> tourists, and if there are, friendly.
> It was near Blessington, next to the Wicklow mountains.
> This is not like France....!-after that we went to Buckley fx to have the
> famous ribeye steaks and some German beer and a Laproigh(?) whiskey or
> two?;marvellous, but the bill was rather hefty.
> I have to say Anthony , you have a magnificent country.I was lucky to
> visit, and most certainly i will go back.Maybe for a month or so.
>
> I sincerely hope The north of Ireland will blend in again,altough the
> troubles are not forgotten,and they still have a biting reflex.
>
> Talking about the Eu; it looks obvious by now that we will hit the no-deal
> .
> Adrie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Op vr 22 mei 2020 om 14:14 schreef Ant McWatt <antmcwatt at hotmail.co.uk>:
>
> > 'As an Englishman, i think you have a slight idea about the prices eh?,'
> >
> > LOL there Adrie, you'd think the now largely defunct BRITISH EMPIRE was a
> > mercenary organization!  You still see the public (read 'private') school
> > chums & their MPs thinking that the old Empire will magically appear when
> > or if the UK leaves EU.  (Anyway, it will be only England & Wales)... the
> > Scottish will be back in the EU as soon as they have given the classic
> > two-fingered salute to the WESTMINISTER/ENGLISH parliament later this
> > decade and I have a feeling Northern Ireland will even 'get back' with
> the
> > rest of Irish Republic within the next decade.
> >
> > BTW, below is a video of the typical English 'public school graduate', it
> > just gives the wider world an indication of what the average 'Englishman
> in
> > the street' has to deal with when these retards go into government...
> talk
> > about black comedy:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC0IJQ_s7No
> >
> > More seriously, it sounds like your brother has quite a well equipped
> > engineering workshop to say the least but does he have a lathe?  About 18
> > years ago Robert Pirsig sent me an email announcing the arrival of his
> new
> > lathe for his workshop.  He was really excited about it because he could
> > start making his own 'homemade' tools for himself as well as another
> lathe
> > if he had desired doing so.
> >
> > Finally, being a rather fast driver (I nearly became a rally driver many,
> > many years ago) and someone appreciating  old-fashioned luxury, I do like
> > my 1960s-90s British classic cars (especially Jaguars and Rover V8s).
> > Again, like older motrcycles/bikes most of the models in question would
> run
> > better on leaded petrol but I'm afraid those days are long, long gone in
> > the UK.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Ant
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9MWvgOjebo
> > [https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.VvRKbYgY_7gkNGeNEnHm_gEsDh&pid=Api]<
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9MWvgOjebo>
> > What’s the Greatest Machine of the 1960s…the Jaguar E-Type?<
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9MWvgOjebo>
> > THE JAGUAR E-TYPE (1961) The Jaguar E-Type is a British sports car, which
> > was manufactured by Jaguar Cars Ltd between 1961 and 1975. Its
> combination
> > of beauty, high performance, and competitive pricing established the
> marque
> > as an icon of 1960s motoring. At a time when most cars had drum brakes,
> > live rear axles, and mediocre performance, the E ...
> > www.youtube.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Moq_Discuss <moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org> on behalf of
> > Adrie Kintziger <parser666 at gmail.com>
> > Sent: 19 May 2020 20:09
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> > Subject: Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends
> >
> > Yes , indeed , my brother owns the place, and all the machines in it,we
> can
> > weld,grind, turn, saw , whatever-, we even have an
> > electrical oven to bake some parts, and a sandblaster. I'm still on the
> > scouting for a nice CB 77 or a Yamaha rd 350 lc blue/white,only a matter
> of
> > time
> > that i will have one,and restore it to a showroomcondition.
> > As an Englishman, i think you have a slight idea about the prices eh?,to
> > give you an idea. A new electronic ignition and condensers,along with the
> > infrared pick-up elements for the TX 500 Yam,=200 euro,
> > a simple camchain joint link, 1 (one)= 70 euro,..a camchain without the
> > joint, 184 euro, a gasket set covering all carters/cranck/cases, the
> heads
> > and the oilchannels =210 euro;  a kit to get a refit for the oilfilter to
> > make it adapt to modern ones
> > =75 euro,(the old oilfilters are absent, the new have another threading)
> ,
> > anyway these are the cheap parts. A crankshaft = 2000 euro, a camshaft
> 800
> > but you need two. We payed 500 euro for the valves and seats only.
> >
> > And we have others issue's as well.
> > Modern fuel contains alcohol and lacks lead. The old bikes need lead and
> > pure fuel.Almost impossible to get.
> > It is also very difficult to import a motor and have it approved
> > legally,and it is expensive.
> > If a bike has been in a shed for say 40 years,all document for it become
> > valueless.
> > But we like to get our nose in a jerrycan.
> >
> > Adrie
> >
> >
> > Op di 19 mei 2020 om 12:47 schreef Ant McWatt <antmcwatt at hotmail.co.uk>:
> >
> > > Sounds a very good way to go, Adrie, in these 'times of trouble' with
> the
> > > motorcycles/bikes and outboard boat engines.   Bet your brother and
> your
> > > good self are glad that you have that man-cave to work in!  It's also
> > nice
> > > to hear in this 'age of consumerism' that you are both doing good deals
> > on
> > > these (sensibly engine-sized) motorbikes/cycles.  I know where I'm
> going
> > to
> > > order my next 'bike' from!!!
> > >
> > > Yours, thinking ahead (slightly Dynamically),
> > >
> > > Ant
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Moq_Discuss <moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org> on behalf of
> > > Adrie Kintziger <parser666 at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: 17 May 2020 19:17
> > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends
> > >
> > > The country is Belgium , but my mother was Dutch, and i live on 1 mile
> of
> > > the Dutch border.
> > > I'm currently working on a TX 500 Yamaha , Ant,i have a little
> > > mancave -garage with my brother and we have 3
> > > bikes on the table right now,i bought a lot of nos parts for the
> > > Yamaha,still in the box tough,..he's not in a hurry ,as he is from 76.
> > > The other is a gsx 55O Suzi, and one Kawa 498 ltd.I do the engines and
> > the
> > > elektricity, my brother paint frame and chrome.
> > > If we sell a bike , mostly it is break even,or we make some bucks not
> > worth
> > > the effort,but we have some Belgian beer to comfort us.
> > > We also restore old outboard engines, Ducati, Evinrude, Honda,
> two-stroke
> > > and 4 stroke  , longtail/shorttail name it , its there, and the
> surprise-
> > > they sell like candy,and they make very good money.
> > >
> > >
> > > Op zo 17 mei 2020 om 20:44 schreef Ant McWatt <antmcwatt at hotmail.co.uk
> >:
> > >
> > > > I completely understand Adrie.  The shortage of fresh, clean water
> for
> > > ALL
> > > > of this world's population is almost certainly more critical than
> > dealing
> > > > with this Corona virus which, of course, could have been handled a
> lot
> > > > better and more quickly in so many countries.  So, as such, I'm so
> glad
> > > to
> > > > see the speed camera money in your country (the Netherlands?) going
> to
> > > > politicians and tax breaks rather than protective clothing for
> > > 'front-line'
> > > > workers...  BTW, anyone around here got any money to pay for my new
> > > > Ferrari's petrol bill?  Running five classic cars & two motorcycles
> in
> > > this
> > > > day & age is getting a little difficult (though it was a big, big
> > relief
> > > to
> > > > see the oil prices drop like a stone recently)!
> > > >
> > > > Well, I suppose the world's human population has realised some
> > > fundamental
> > > > East Asian philosophy truths with this virus - the penny's finally
> > > dropping
> > > > that we're all connected in more ways than one.  You could also add
> the
> > > > issue of climate change; for example, every piece of litter you leave
> > on
> > > > the street, any water or food you waste, any trip you take in your
> > > Ferrari
> > > > (or whatever vehicle 'turns you on') affects EVERYONE and all
> > biological
> > > > patterns on this planet, sooner or later.  It's a hard lesson, a very
> > > hard
> > > > lesson for some, but better to happen now while human beings still
> > have a
> > > > chance to protect the intellectual & social patterns on this planet.
> > The
> > > > MOQ is great in it's own way but how many people understand it and
> > apply
> > > > it? I can preach all I like but the preaching is, at best, only going
> > to
> > > > 'reach' a few thousand people.  My 'guitar' still gently weeps...
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrTMc2i6Lzc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Finally, loved that last sentence of yours:
> > > >
> > > > 'It's a burlesque theatre; with drunken clowns on stage.'
> > > >
> > > > Could have been written by Oscar Wilde IMHO...
> > > >
> > > > Take care,
> > > >
> > > > Ant
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Moq_Discuss <moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org> on behalf
> of
> > > > Adrie Kintziger <parser666 at gmail.com>
> > > > Sent: 17 May 2020 16:34
> > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends
> > > >
> > > > People do not like critical issues i suppose.Although i'm not a
> > doomsday
> > > > prepper or  a stand up Nostradamus
> > > > that is handing out predictions or possible disasters i am convinced
> > that
> > > > the climate is changing very rapidly,the water is
> > > > not in the possibility to replenish itself  anymore and there is no
> > food
> > > on
> > > > the planet for all of us.
> > > > Some countries are gearing up for war,and some economy's are so debt
> > > > infested that in fact, a war would be the only way out,...
> > > > How far are we away from patterns like say the Weimar republique?
> > > > Printing money all the time bled out Europe, America,Russia,and only
> > > China
> > > > seems to have some cash left,to invest in Africa...
> > > > thoughts?.... roll out--
> > > >
> > > > I was thinking about the idiots you mentioned , Anthony, as we also
> > have
> > > a
> > > > bunch of them,the only thing they succeeded to arrange
> > > > are speed controls,traject controls,parking fines, you name it , some
> > > > cameras here rake in 300 000 Euro a month , one of them
> > > > takes it a week.....but all that money was not enough to buy some
> > > > protective material for the population.
> > > > Still , they like to take the stand,and lecture others,preferably on
> an
> > > > international platform like the European parliament, to inform them
> how
> > > > wrong they are.
> > > > Its a burlesque theather; with drunken clowns on stage.
> > > >
> > > > Adrie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Op zo 17 mei 2020 om 05:42 schreef Ant McWatt <
> antmcwatt at hotmail.co.uk
> > >:
> > > >
> > > > > Interesting times, hey?
> > > > >
> > > > > As Bill Hicks would say 'It times like this, you see people's (and
> > > > > co(u)ntries) genuine colo(u)rs!' Heh, heh, heh...
> > > > >
> > > > > Fortunately, where I live there's no known Corona Virus infections
> > but
> > > I
> > > > > look around the world and can see quite a difference of Quality in
> > how
> > > > this
> > > > > relatively minor infection (if it had seen off a billion people by
> > this
> > > > > stage - I'd be concerned - it's no where near that...) has been
> > > regarded
> > > > &
> > > > > treated.
> > > > >
> > > > > I wonder which co(u)ntries have had the best policies to deal wirh
> > it?
> > > > > South Korea?   New Zealand?  Sweden?  What's YOUR opinon in this
> > > regard?
> > > > >  I know it isn't the US let alone the UK.  In fact it's laughable
> > here
> > > -
> > > > we
> > > > > have some clown in southern England called 'Mr Johnson' thinking
> > he's a
> > > > > prime minister and who got the virus!  LOL!  That made my year (or
> at
> > > > least
> > > > > a month) comedy-wise.  I love looking at his latest videos now -
> witb
> > > the
> > > > > sound off and listening to a certain song by RAGE AGAINST THE
> MACHINE
> > > > (I'll
> > > > > give you a hint it begins with FU).   More seriously, I wish people
> > > like
> > > > > him & Trump would just go away and retire on Richard Branson's
> > > island...
> > > > > think what Mark Twain said about people wanting to become
> leaders?!!
> > > > >  (Never mind, I had to deal with Punk in the 1970s and the new
> > > Romantics
> > > > > plus the SMITHS & Thatcher in the 1980s so it has been worse).
> > > > >
> > > > > I leave a final thought for you to ponder... is all this Corona-19
> > > > > infection media blitz simply deflecting the (so-called) general
> > public
> > > > from
> > > > > more critical issues?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind regards to all; sleep tight,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ant
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. Hope you enjoyed your European travels Krimel.  Sorry you felt
> > > Horse
> > > > > & me had betrayed you by revealing your 'real' name.  But 'get
> real',
> > > do
> > > > > you think anyone is THAT interested?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Moq_Discuss <moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org> on
> behalf
> > of
> > > > > Jan-Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com>
> > > > > Sent: 25 April 2020 20:35
> > > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello everyone of you MOQers
> > > > >
> > > > > Great that this line is still open!
> > > > >
> > > > > I am well, playing my accordion and working on the sequel of Money
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > Art...
> > > > >
> > > > > best wishes to
> > > > > you all
> > > > >
> > > > > > 25 apr. 2020 kl. 21:42 skrev Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello old friends,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A couple years ago I sold everything, gave away what I couldn't
> > sell,
> > > > and
> > > > > > moved from Chicago to Florida. I bought a shack perched
> > precariously
> > > > > close
> > > > > > to a canal in the swamps just outside Satsuma where I spend my
> days
> > > > > sitting
> > > > > > in the sunshine reading and taking photos of gators, otters, and
> > blue
> > > > > > herons. I was delighted the other day to see a reference to Zen
> and
> > > the
> > > > > Art
> > > > > > of Motorcycle Maintenance in Quichotte (pronounced Key-Shot) by
> > > Salman
> > > > > > Rushdie but then again Rushdie seems to read everything.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am no longer writing as much as I did up north. I think part of
> > > that
> > > > > has
> > > > > > to do with how it is sunny and warm and pleasant here even in
> > > December
> > > > > and
> > > > > > January and February whereas in Chicago the weather was intent on
> > > > killing
> > > > > > me six months out of the year. I also like to think what I do
> write
> > > now
> > > > > has
> > > > > > more quality than the torrent of words I once produced though in
> > > that I
> > > > > am
> > > > > > most likely fooling myself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am also exercising quite a lot these days: walking, biking,
> > > running,
> > > > > > swimming. I daily take a chug from the fountain of youth and
> dammit
> > > if
> > > > it
> > > > > > doesn't seem to be working. Listening to lots of music both new
> and
> > > > old,
> > > > > > catch myself cranking up the volume. Miles Davis seems
> particularly
> > > > > apropos
> > > > > > to these long and sunny Florida afternoons.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Life is good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A rip tide is raging
> > > > > > And the life guard is away
> > > > > > But the ocean doesn't want me today
> > > > > > The ocean doesn't want me today
> > > > > > (Tom Waits)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 2:11 PM Adrie Kintziger <
> > > parser666 at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hi Matt , and Krimel,and probably more of the usual suspects..
> ,in
> > > the
> > > > > >> run-up to my retirement and my daughter buying a house that i
> had
> > to
> > > > do
> > > > > up
> > > > > >> myself (3 yrs work),
> > > > > >> i halted my postings to the list.After some time it went
> > > > > silent.Probably i
> > > > > >> was peeled out of the onion. Since then, i never checked
> anymore,
> > > nor
> > > > > did i
> > > > > >> hear anything.
> > > > > >> So you are the first ,Matt.
> > > > > >> I still read many books.I fish extensively.Still riding my
> bicycle
> > > > > daily,
> > > > > >> do about 12000 miles a year.I have the bulk of time now.
> > > > > >> But its difficult to ride my normal tracks under lockdown and
> with
> > > the
> > > > > >> Dutch borders closed up-normally i always ride in the
> Netherlands,
> > > but
> > > > > have
> > > > > >> to stay in Belgium nowadays.
> > > > > >> We cannot fish in the canal under the lockdown,and they are
> > > patrolling
> > > > > the
> > > > > >> little forest we have there , so the only thing we can do for
> now
> > is
> > > > > >> cleaning , pruning the trees and
> > > > > >> just sit over there , on some distance from each other. Its our
> > > > personal
> > > > > >> tranquility base , so we have to guard it.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I do not know where you live Matt, and Krimel,i hope its a
> > location
> > > > that
> > > > > >> allows you to weather this viral storms ...
> > > > > >> Missed you all, Krimel included.
> > > > > >> Adrie
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Op za 25 apr. 2020 om 19:36 schreef Scribe <Scribe at club-hub.com
> >:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hi Matt,
> > > > > >>> Good to hear from you. I too have reflected on the old day on
> the
> > > > MoQ.
> > > > > In
> > > > > >>> my
> > > > > >>> memory they take shape as Good old days in a way few reflection
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > >> past
> > > > > >>> do these days.
> > > > > >>> I left the MoQ after Horse and Ant threaten to reveal my true
> > name,
> > > > > >> which I
> > > > > >>> thought was a betrayal of trust. I went to graduate school in
> > > > > >> communication
> > > > > >>> but dropped out after a six years as an ABD with a master's,
> > mostly
> > > > > >> because
> > > > > >>> I got a full time teaching gig. I mostly taught Psychology but
> > also
> > > > > >> classes
> > > > > >>> in Communication and Philosophy. I retired last year and spent
> > > couple
> > > > > of
> > > > > >>> months in Europe riding trains with my wife. We had similar
> plans
> > > > this
> > > > > >> year
> > > > > >>> but they have been delayed...
> > > > > >>> There is a serious irony for me with respect to the MoQ. When I
> > > > entered
> > > > > >>> graduate school, I was averaging four or five page of writing a
> > day
> > > > for
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >>> community. Graduate school gave me writer's block. It was too
> > > > focused,
> > > > > >> too
> > > > > >>> controlled, it had to be done. Don't get me wrong I wrote a lot
> > for
> > > > > >>> graduate
> > > > > >>> school but it was not for fun and other than being an asshole
> on
> > > > > >> Facebook I
> > > > > >>> don't do it much these days.
> > > > > >>> Anyway, love me or hate me I miss all of you, well most of you,
> > > > > fiercely.
> > > > > >>> Krimel
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >>> From: Moq_Discuss <moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org> On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of
> > > > > >>> Matt
> > > > > >>> Kundert
> > > > > >>> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 11:41 AM
> > > > > >>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > > >>> Subject: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Hi Everyone,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> It's been three years since I've checked this email and five
> > since
> > > I
> > > > > >> wrote
> > > > > >>> to the listserve.  I was just talking to a friend, outside, 8
> > feet
> > > > > away,
> > > > > >> on
> > > > > >>> a fold-out chair I brought with me, and she brought up ZMM.  We
> > > > > chatted a
> > > > > >>> little while about it, and am going to give her one of the many
> > > > copies
> > > > > I
> > > > > >>> still have squirreled away.  I haven't read it since I taught
> it
> > in
> > > > > 2014,
> > > > > >>> but I still think it is one of the most remarkably structured
> > > books.
> > > > > >> I've
> > > > > >>> been teaching "close reading" for over 10 years now, and its
> > > > > >> responsiveness
> > > > > >>> is a sign of its enduring quality of thought and feeling.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> But that's just, maybe, the required nostalgic overture.  The
> > real
> > > > > >>> nostalgia
> > > > > >>> I wanted to toss into this still pool was a Hello to any of my
> > old
> > > > > >> friends
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> and
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