Hi SA, gav and the rest of the universe,

[SA said]
Thus, the tension, the frustrations, the seemingly personal attacks, all due to digging ourselves in for battle, instead of moving on to What? What are we to move on to?  Where are we to go from SOM to MOQ?  What does that mean? I really wouldn't mind a dialogue here.

I think this highlights a very key point here.  It's interesting because when you break it down some here call themselves 'Pirsigian' or 'MOQers' but I've never seen any real effort to try and define what these two terms actually mean.  Or maybe that's just it.  Maybe 'the whole point' of us coming here is that each day, day in day out, we come here precisely TO define what a Pirsigian and MOQer is.  What do you think SA? What is 'the point'?

Cheers,

David.