[MF] A thirty-thousand page menu with no food?

Matt Kundert pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com
Fri Feb 3 10:06:38 PST 2006


Steve,

Steve said:
Does that person then by definition, not HAVE the same ‘type’ of dreams 
because they are ‘one of degree of complexity’ [or more] in their thought 
process?
...
Does a person with an atypical ‘severe’ intellectual impairment ... dream 
‘differently’ to the ‘average’ person?

If they have a medical standard ‘Intelligence Quotient’ of say 20, surely 
they could not possess the SAME level of language as an expression of 
thought?  Nevertheless, they may very well have an equal level of 
‘feeling’...True?

Matt:
I would say, sure, people with various levels of language ability will dream 
and experience differently than others.  That's partly what gives us 
different experiences.  While our, say, non-linguistic experience of a 
sunset is going to be very similar, our description of what we experience is 
going to be different, which contributes to a slightly different experience. 
  Or our experience of reading Eliot's "The Waste Land."  That's going to be 
quite different depending on our background with language.  But our 
non-linguistic experiences, being more or less hinged on how our nervous 
system is set up, is going to be more or less the same.

Matt

p.s.  If your "triple helix" is important in some way to interpreting what 
you are talking about, then by all means, fill us in.  I just assumed it 
meant something like three interconnected thoughts, like they had to be 
understood more or less holistically rather than atomistically.

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