[MD] Where does logic itself belong inside the MOQ?

Magnus Berg McMagnus at home.se
Sun Jan 3 00:42:37 PST 2010


Hi John

Not sure we've talked before. I'm Magnus Berg, an old member mostly lurking 
these days. But this thread caught my eye and your reference to Royce made me 
dig into it somewhat.

John:
> Bo and Joe and (whatever happened to WillBlake2?) oughta look into the
> logical roots of metaphysics as investigated and written by Josiah Royce,
> who spent a great deal of energy on this topic in his later years and came
> up with a buncha good stuff, way over my head (or inclination)

Thanks for the pointer to Royce, I didn't find any direct writing by him online, 
but others have explained the gist of his investigations and that makes me think 
it's not really applicable to the MoQ, i.e. our reality.

As I understood it, Royce was trying to capture all of our reality, including 
human behavior such as religion, in terms of logic. You don't really have to 
understand the finer details of what a Boolsk algebra, or isomorphism is. What 
matters is that human behavior is just as foreign to logic as the rules of a 
stock exchange is to the law of gravity. The stumble block is the levels and 
their borders, each level has its own rules and they can *not* be expressed in 
terms of each other's rules. That's what the MoQ adds to the equation of our 
reality and SOM and other systems seems to have missed. Reality is simply much 
more complex than others seem to think, and the levels are what makes it that 
much more complex.

Regards,

	Magnus




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