[MD] What Bo Doesn't Get

[Steven Peterson]

Mati:
...The problem is then the intellectual level
> becomes a free for all and basically anything you can think of.  Based
> on "encoding of experience into concepts" the intellectual level could
> have well existed before the social level, which would defy the basic
> principles of MOQ.

Steve:
It is an MOQ assertion that social patterns predate concepts. Since
concepts require language and since language is a social pattern it is
clear that the social level must have existed before the intellectual
level.


Mati:
>The point is when we discuss something that can
> defined metaphysically has always come home to the S/O reality.  When
> you discuss something factually it requires a metaphysical basis of
> understanding to provide it legitimacy.  Truth that was socially
> defined required the gods for an answer, Truth intellectually speaking
> required the S/O platform.  The problem was this platform was flawed
> in which MOQ becomes the next better platform.
>
> The metaphysical path of "encoding of experience into concepts" is a
> dead end that gets nowhere metaphysically speaking in the same manner
> as SOM.  Bo's simply points that out.

Steve:
You suppose that metaphysics is a fundamental intellectual pattern
that all other intellectual patterns depend upon. I don't see it that
way. I suppose that "simply thinking" (intellect) must have preceded
"thinking about thinking" (metaphysics).

Best,
Steve