[MD] What is the opposite of Quality?

[MarshaV]

Greetings,

I'd say chaos is a static pattern of value whose definition includes patternless,
 and is associated with powerlessness.  It does, at times, invoke fear.


Marsha





On Jan 6, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Krimel wrote:

> [Bruce]
> As I see it, Chaos is not a level nor is Quality. Levels represent a place
> in time on the evolutionary scale and current status of Static patterns of
> quality.  Each level represents a ratchet point that attempts to protect
> itself and it's achievements.  Quality's goal is to organize the best system
> possible, the ultimate static pattern.  The ultimate destruction of all
> static patterns is total chaos... no static patterns.  Check out slide 9,
> "Lila Train of Knowledge". 
> 
> [Krimel]
> As I have noted elsewhere I think you should really look more closely was
> what Chaos is and what it can do. You should also consider more carefully
> your first slide. I believe the MoQ is Taoism packaged for westerners.
> Quality IS the Tao. It is indefinable except in each passing moment. It is
> the union of opposites and among the most significant and primary opposites
> are the active and passive forces of Yin and Yang. Get it? "Active" as in
> changing and dynamic and passive as in fixed or static.
> 
> Quality has no goal. It simply is.
> 
> The tension between order and chaos (read static and dynamic) is at the
> heart of the creation stories of nearly every major civilization on the
> planet. They all speak of how order triumphs over chaos. But then they all
> go on about how we should act to preserve the ongoing order and keep chaos
> at bay. The problem is that chaos is with us always. It never goes way. 
> 
> 
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