[MD] What is the oppostite of Quality?

[Krimel]

[Bruce]
In my reference to chaos, it is not concerning a branch of science, but a
simple concept of organization breaking down into a disorganized state.
www.dictionary.com:
       1. a state of utter confusion or disorder; a total lack of
organization or order.

[Krimel]
Is this an admission of your own misunderstanding or a defense of Pirsig's?
Talking about Chaos, in the context that Pirsig does, is a bit like someone
talking about astronomy and insisting that Mars refers to the god of war.

[Bruce]
 It appears to me that there are two systems at work and perhaps that is
Dynamic Quality creating Dynamic Chaos or destruction.  However, there is
"something" that causes things to move from a state of disorder to order
that does not alighn with the 2nd law of thermodynmics and that to me is
Quality.  I see it that anything that is organized into patterns did that
out of Dynamic Quality and is Quality itself.  If it is not organized it is
in a state of chaos.  However, what is it that moves things from a state of
organization back to chaos?  Is that Quality?  If so, then it appears that
Quality is both Dynamic Quality and Dynamic Chaos...

[Krimel]
If you take the time to look into this you will find that the study of chaos
is linked to dynamic systems. Your ideas on entropy are equally confused.
Ordered states are merely much less likely than disordered states. In all
transformations of energy something is lost to heat. This is the ultimate
winding down of the universe. Order is a special case of just plain old
random interactions. If someone and threw 1000 heads in a row, we would be
tempted to look for something that is "causing" the coin to come up heads.
We would appear to have discovered order in the randomness of tossing coins.
But this would not necessarily be the case. This "order" is just a subset of
all of the possible outcomes of 1000 coin tosses. It is no more or less
probable than any of the other possible outcomes.

[Bruce]
Perhaps I put to much emphasis on the 2nd law of thermodynmics, but Pirsig
does reference this in Lila. Things left alone will break down from an
organized state to a state of disorganization. (need to find it)

[Krimel]
Pirsig's discussion of the second law is as confused as yours. He claims
that somehow life causes entropy to run backwards and the levels are in
conflict with each other. In fact he explicitly says that sunlight can not
be the cause of life and the increase in order that we see in living
systems. This is blatantly false. Nothing about evolution or anything else
in nature violates the second law. The earth is bathed in solar radiation
and the constant inflow of energy produces increases in order, locally.