[MD] Where does logic itself belong inside the MOQ?

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Sat Jan 16 01:02:00 PST 2010


Bo,

What exact logic are you trying to establish as the
prerequisite for the universe?  Inductive?  Deductive?
Geometry: Euclidean, Lobachevskian or Riemannian, 
or something else?


Marsha   




On Jan 16, 2010, at 2:36 AM, skutvik at online.no wrote:

> Hi Magnus
> 
> 15 Jan.
> 
> Ian had said:
>>> Empty space is part of that expanding universe.
>>> The universe is not expanding "through" anything, not even
>>> emptiness. The universe is that beyond which there is nothing -
>>> logically, by definition.
> 
> Magnus:
>> Logically? :) Was the pun intended? Pretty funny in this thread. It
>> shows where you stand in the original question anyway, and I think I'm
>> in the same ballpark. Logic is in some sense *before* our physical
>> universe. .... 
> 
> Good to see some level-headed Scandinavian around. Ian is 
> European, but may be spoilt from his USA experience ;-)  I agree 
> about logic as something very basic. A few day ago I tried to press the 
> various members for their opinion on logic's place in the MOQ and 
> Ian's was something about "logical loops" and "strange loops" which 
> means "no logic" and that's untenable.
> 
>> The universe depends on it, and uses it for its own purposes. Sounds
>> like a lower level to me. 
> 
> However, the addition of new levels does not appeal to me, if we open 
> that gate where to stop? I agree very much that logic is the universe's  
> prerequisite and have suggested it as the inorganic "carbon". Where 
> this originates ..?? ... but at this - um - level the buck stops for us all. 
> 
> Bodvar         
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