[MD] Where does logic itself belong inside the MOQ?
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Sat Jan 16 01:02:00 PST 2010
Bo,
What exact logic are you trying to establish as the
prerequisite for the universe? Inductive? Deductive?
Geometry: Euclidean, Lobachevskian or Riemannian,
or something else?
Marsha
On Jan 16, 2010, at 2:36 AM, skutvik at online.no wrote:
> Hi Magnus
>
> 15 Jan.
>
> Ian had said:
>>> Empty space is part of that expanding universe.
>>> The universe is not expanding "through" anything, not even
>>> emptiness. The universe is that beyond which there is nothing -
>>> logically, by definition.
>
> Magnus:
>> Logically? :) Was the pun intended? Pretty funny in this thread. It
>> shows where you stand in the original question anyway, and I think I'm
>> in the same ballpark. Logic is in some sense *before* our physical
>> universe. ....
>
> Good to see some level-headed Scandinavian around. Ian is
> European, but may be spoilt from his USA experience ;-) I agree
> about logic as something very basic. A few day ago I tried to press the
> various members for their opinion on logic's place in the MOQ and
> Ian's was something about "logical loops" and "strange loops" which
> means "no logic" and that's untenable.
>
>> The universe depends on it, and uses it for its own purposes. Sounds
>> like a lower level to me.
>
> However, the addition of new levels does not appeal to me, if we open
> that gate where to stop? I agree very much that logic is the universe's
> prerequisite and have suggested it as the inorganic "carbon". Where
> this originates ..?? ... but at this - um - level the buck stops for us all.
>
> Bodvar
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