[MD] Where does logic itself belong inside the MOQ?

[X Acto]

Some may say that human experience is the edge of the universe



----- Original Message ----
From: Ian Glendinning <ian.glendinning at gmail.com>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 6:18:01 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Where does logic itself belong inside the MOQ?

Empty space is part of that expanding universe.
The universe is not expanding "through" anything, not even emptiness.
The universe is that beyond which there is nothing - logically, by definition.

Ian

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Magnus Berg <McMagnus at home.se> wrote:
> Hi Craig
>
>> [ Mary]
>>>
>>>   What is beyond the edge of the Universe?
>>> This is what I want Pirsig to explain.
>>
>> If so, you are on a fool's errand.
>> Craig
>
> I wouldn't be so quick to judge.
>
> We know roughly how old the universe is and how large it is. We also know
> that it is expanding at an ever increasing rate. But into what? Does science
> have an answer to that? Nothingness?
>
> If it is "nothingness", then this nothingness gives way to the somethingness
> that is the universe when it is expanding. But then we have somehow
> incorporated the nothingness into our reality, and we have also expanded the
> universe to infinity. But only a part of that universe is the somethingness
> in which we and other stuff can exist.
>
> If the expanding universe is *not* replacing some other stuff occupying the
> space that it is expanding into, then you need to explain how that is done.
> That would be a completely new process to science, right?
>
> I can go on for quite a while longer, but what I want to say is that the
> question is far from foolish. At the very least, it will result in another
> question.
>
>        Magnus
>
> Moq_Discuss mailing list
> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
> Archives:
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
>
Moq_Discuss mailing list
Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
Archives:
http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/