[MD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Awareness of Quality

[MarshaV]

Mark,

Quality(unpatterned experience & patterned experience) --- Reality.


Marsha






On Jan 16, 2010, at 12:39 PM, markhsmit wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> Perhaps the first step is to ask individuals to consider 
> if there is a question to be asked regards to quality.
> That is how Pirsig got there.  He used the notion of
> quality to achieve his personal world view.  Through
> this he then grew that into a systematic representation
> of quality.
> 
> 1.  Underlying everything is their quality.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Jan 16, 2010, at 12:53:43 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> From:   MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> Subject:    Re: [MD] [Bulk] Awareness of Quality
> Date:   January 16, 2010 12:53:43 AM PST
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
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> Hi Mark,
> 
> Don't you think the first step would be to get individuals to consider
> there is a question to be asked in regards to reality?
> 
> 
> Marsha 
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> On Jan 16, 2010, at 3:28 AM, markhsmit wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> It appears to me that many in this post have an awareness
>> of Quality. The MoQ serves to transfer our personal awareness
>> through words and logic and references to another. Once such
>> an awareness is captured, then it becomes subjective. It does
>> not then rely on the objective transfer, but becomes internalized
>> as a new view. At that point it becomes separate from the discussion
>> which preceded it. Many of us are trying to impart (or infect) that personal
>> awareness, each in our own way. The result is, hopefully, a consensus
>> on the best way to impart it to others. It is not so much whether one
>> view is right or wrong, but whether one method is more effective
>> than another.
>>  
>> I can sense the frustration by some when others do not get their
>> awareness, when the relator uses the method by which they
>> achieved it ("how can you not get it?!"). It is difficult when one
>> tries to impart a non-intellectual realization with words. Some
>> philosophies tend to be easier to assimilate. This may be a
>> measure of the reality of the metaphysics itself. In some cases
>> only a small number of like minded individuals share a common
>> awareness. In other cases a large number get it. If truth is in
>> numbers, perhaps it is the vector being used not the subject
>> itself that matters.
>>  
>> If MoQ is to become a pandemic, maybe simpler and less wordy
>> concepts should be used. I see a big difference
>> between ZAMM and Lila in terms of such infection. Why is
>> that? Does Lila get too far away from the truth? If an understanding
>> of reality using the concept of Quality is indeed the most
>> efficient method for creating reality awareness, perhaps it
>> should be simplified. The twelve steps of achieving an
>> awareness of the world through MoQ.
>>  
>> Do we expect Quality to be the right method of imparting
>> the awareness of reality?
>>  
>> Mark
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