[MD] Are theists irrational?

[Andre Broersen]

Ian to Arlo:
I agree it mostly has it (maybe even 99% has it). Science is therefore
morally supereior if and only if it really is an intellectual pattern.
In practice it operates through many social patterns too. In theory
science has the moral high ground ... in practice ...

Andre:
Hi Ian, Arlo, of course this caught my eye as I was reading and the
musings over this issue led me to start a new thread on the
SOL/Intellectual level issue.

Ian, you nailed it right to a tee: is the SOL a 'truly' intellectual
pattern (or as Bodvar claims of course the dominating factor at that
level)?

This is what I just dug up from the Paul Turner letter: Pirsig:

'What complicates all this discrimination between intellectual and social
thought are intellectual patterns that are no longer intellectually
valid but are sustained by the social traditions that they created long
ago. Religious beliefs are in this class. Classical physics is in this
class. I think much of the opposition to the MOQ falls in this class as
well'.

'...classical physics eh? does he mean Aristotelian physics? meaning
that the SOL is now sustained by social traditions and has no longer
any intellectual validity as far as the MoQ is concerned?

Interesting.

Ahhh, points to ponder.

For what it's worth.

Regards
Andre