[MD] Freedom

[plattholden at gmail.com]

Hey John,

You see, John, to Krimel it's "Oops, you're here." And he thinks "Oops" 
is a good explanation. He tries to make it sound better by invoking 
"Aha." But, it's still just chance. Which explains nothing.  

Platt


On 18 Jan 2010 at 14:14, John Carl wrote:

> Now you're *trying* to give me the shivers Krimel... but it won't work.
> 
> if .. if .. if ...
> 
> if wishes were ponies, beggars wouldn't need to look far for rose
> fertilizer.
> 
> I AM; so postualating all the chances which make me NOT are rhetroical
> blowin' in the wind.
> 
> Waiter, I don't think this conversation is leading to the Good.
> 
> John
> 
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Krimel <Krimel at krimel.com> wrote:
> 
> > [John]
> > And more to Arlo's point, making choice dependent upon chance has a certain
> > truth ring to it, but I'm not sure I'll buy it.   It makes ME and MY
> > existence dependent upon chaotic chance. Shudders.  Existential angst comes
> > all over me.
> >
> > [Krimel]
> > We make choices as a way of influencing chance. We seek to improve our odds
> > of attaining goals or achieving our hearts desire. That is what evolution
> > is
> > all about and all living things have some ability to perceive their odds in
> > such matters and to act on them.
> >
> > Your existence is nothing but the outcome of lots and lots of random
> > events.
> > A particular sperm fertilized a particular egg at a particular place at a
> > particular time. If any of those particulars had been minutely different,
> > right down to the quantum level, you would be someone else.
> >
> >
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