[MD] Are theists irrational?

[Ian Glendinning]

Arlo ... you said
""And I'd say that the "blind spot" in science (or any symbolic
system) is an inherent feature that can never be overcome. As such,
its not an obstacle to be condemned, but the basis for your
"contingence".""

Yes, but it is the blindness to the blind spot that is the blind spot.
That contingency goes unrecognized. We need to break that logical dead
end. Science may "wish" it was a symbolic system, but it also
increasingly wants to be part of the real world. That is my point - if
that is the problem, that is what we should address, by
level-shifting.

Millions of people are making noises that faith-based religion is not
good. I add my voice to that every day. But that's the easy bit. The
hard bit is fixing the problem with the alternative - particularly if
some people see it as a problem that can never be overcome. That's a
REAL hurdle, worth my time addressing. Not condemning - but fixing,
helping, addressing.

I'm no quitter. Never is not in my vocabulary.
Ian