[MD] Metaphysics

[John Carl]

I still don't quite understand Marsha,

I meant that if you are not invested or attached,
> in them as representing an absolute, unchangeable,
> independent  Reality, then you can start
> considering their value.
>


Do you mean by this that static patterns of value exist completely apart
from myself?  I can't quite see how they could when it's by my choice of
value systems that they exist for me in the form I perceive them at all.

I only know the true value of things I care most about! My caring and
investment and attachment are the only way I know of expressing what I value
and continuing to choose it.

"unchangeable doesn't make sense in the moment of perception, it only makes
sense after time and something doesn't change.  Or does.

If you mean something different, by all means please clarify, but if you
mean what you say in your post, I'm gonna argue with you.

That used to be Lu's joking reference to "wait till your father comes home -
he's gonna argue with you."  My kids hated to argue with me, still do.

John feeling all fiesty...