[MD] What does Pirsig mean by metaphysics?

John Carl ridgecoyote at gmail.com
Thu Jan 28 10:19:48 PST 2010


Sure Marsha, even before you posted them in the recent past.

Quality in it's more static aspect does not obviate Quality in it's more
dynamic.

Can't put new wine in the old wine skins,

Later,

John


On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:37 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

>
>
> Plu-eeze!
>
> Obviously spoken by someone knowing little of classical music...
>
> Have you ever listened to Bach's Goldberg Variations?
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:35 AM, John Carl wrote:
>
> > Well said Andre,
> >
> >
> >> Pirsig does not want his metaphysics to be another prison. Hence the
> >> DQ/SQ divisions... and (if you like) the notion of the continuation of
> >> evolutionary progress (which is 'open-ended'). That is: it remains
> >> provisional.
> >
> >
> >
> > Pirsig in ZAMM quotes jazz musicians - jazz, a uniquely new American  Art
> -
> > influencing the culture at large, Kerouac adopted Jazz style to
> literature
> > and inspired a new generation of writers to break free from the prison of
> > formal rigidity.
> >
> > Classical symphonys, with every note defined and in its place, have their
> > beauty, Bach in his realm, Kant in his. Breathtaking!  but the MoQ is
> more
> > like Jazz,
> >
> > Jazz is not chaotic at its roots.  It might seem so to those overly-fond
> of
> > having every note defined, but the musical structure dictates a
> harmonious
> > unity that is not intellectually defined, but sensed, and felt, and
> played
> > with freedom.  The MoQ invites harmonious riffs, not apparent to the
> > original composer and discovered in the playing.
> >
> > "Man if you could just drop all them high-falutin' pretensions and DIG
> it"
> >
> >
> >
> > John
>
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