[MD] What does Pirsig mean by metaphysics?

[MarshaV]

When Beethoven was composing, he was producing music the likes of
which audience had never heard before.  He was "Far out there Man!!!'
And I can assure you that a jazz pianist doesn't go to a keyboard and
just pound on any notes.  There is form and structure under Jazz too.  



On Jan 28, 2010, at 1:19 PM, John Carl wrote:

> Sure Marsha, even before you posted them in the recent past.
> 
> Quality in it's more static aspect does not obviate Quality in it's more
> dynamic.
> 
> Can't put new wine in the old wine skins,
> 
> Later,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:37 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Plu-eeze!
>> 
>> Obviously spoken by someone knowing little of classical music...
>> 
>> Have you ever listened to Bach's Goldberg Variations?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:35 AM, John Carl wrote:
>> 
>>> Well said Andre,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Pirsig does not want his metaphysics to be another prison. Hence the
>>>> DQ/SQ divisions... and (if you like) the notion of the continuation of
>>>> evolutionary progress (which is 'open-ended'). That is: it remains
>>>> provisional.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pirsig in ZAMM quotes jazz musicians - jazz, a uniquely new American  Art
>> -
>>> influencing the culture at large, Kerouac adopted Jazz style to
>> literature
>>> and inspired a new generation of writers to break free from the prison of
>>> formal rigidity.
>>> 
>>> Classical symphonys, with every note defined and in its place, have their
>>> beauty, Bach in his realm, Kant in his. Breathtaking!  but the MoQ is
>> more
>>> like Jazz,
>>> 
>>> Jazz is not chaotic at its roots.  It might seem so to those overly-fond
>> of
>>> having every note defined, but the musical structure dictates a
>> harmonious
>>> unity that is not intellectually defined, but sensed, and felt, and
>> played
>>> with freedom.  The MoQ invites harmonious riffs, not apparent to the
>>> original composer and discovered in the playing.
>>> 
>>> "Man if you could just drop all them high-falutin' pretensions and DIG
>> it"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> John
>> 
>> 
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