[MD] What does Pirsig mean by metaphysics?
Andre Broersen
andrebroersen at gmail.com
Fri Jan 29 12:37:47 PST 2010
Bodvar to Dave T
Don't you see? Reason's (SOM's) struggle to free existence from the
mythological prison was a moral struggle and a great moral victory.
Andre:
And, Bodvar, in your post to me you said:'no level beyond the
intellectual is possible'
The MoQ, as a higher Quality intellectual pattern, has relegated SOM
reasoning to become part of...in due time... the mythological
'prison'.
You continue:
If so isn't the mythological past also an intellectual pattern? And
soon all existence is "intellectual" and voila, SOM - as idealism - is
back in force.
Andre:
This is so arguing from a static SOM perspective, The MoQ has the
DQ/SQ configuration. Subjects and objects mean something completely
different and subjectivity and objectivity are part of mythology.
Bodvar:
It is SOM's "M" which is the culprit, pretending the S/O to be
existence's fundament leads to all kinds of ill effects, while the S/O
distinction has lifted existence from religious tyranny to modernity. And
this MUST be kept high and dry, and that is only possible by relegating
it the position of the highest static level, after all it is subordinated the
DQ/SQ configuration.
Andre:
And you can only do this by creating another level. Within the MoQ the
levels are already there. In SOM they aren't ( at least not complete).
Bodvar:
Doesn't this indicate that Phaedrus original insight was
the SOL one? An note that no one - absolutely no one - applies the
MOQ to anything at all (except me) for the plain reason that it is only
the SOL interpretation that gives it its mighty explanatory power.
Without it ....it's nil and void.
Andre:
Only if you suggest that the MoQ emerged (SOL)ely from SOM, but it
didn't! ( Just complete reading the paragraph about Phaedrus entering
India an empitical scientist and leaving as one. The continuation is
very important).
Andre
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