[MD] grmbl

[Andre Broersen]

Marsha to Andre:

Andre previously:
I am not replacing anything!! (it is Bodvar who tries to do this) I am 
simply suggesting that dialectics and rhetoric, as a mode of enquiry 
belong at the intellectual level. I mean, if these two modes are not 
about a skilled manipulation of symbols I don't know what is.

Mr. Pirsig described rhetoric as as form of 'mystic art' (ZMM p 145, my 
e-copy) and suggested on p185 that 'philosophical mysticism,the idea 
that truth is undefinable...has been with us since the beginning of 
history'.

Marsha in response:
Thing is that this is your opinion.  Not anything like the closest to RMP's MoQ.

Andre:
Thing is that you leave out the word 'just' as in 'it is just your opinion'.( ZMM following Phaedrus' thing in ZMM). Thing is that you are not responding to what Mr. Pirsig says, which is not surprising since Bodvar's SOM, which you adhere to, excludes anything and everything which seeks to combine immediate experience and the rational understanding of this with reference to Quality... which Mr. Pirsig refers to as mystic art.

As dmb noted earlier; Bodvar's understanding excludes DQ.