[MD] Reading & Comprehension

[skutvik at online.no]

Hi Steve 

6 June. :

Steve: 
> The quote you are referring to says," As long as you're inside a
> logical, coherent universe of thought you can't escape metaphysics." 

OK!

> (the?) point about about menu/food being a form of a dichotomy between
> subjective descriptions and objective reality (is SOM)  

Is this what you say (my parenthesis)? If not correct me. 

> But Pirsig never says "the way we experience reality IS a
> metaphysics." 

Of course not, but the message is that ordering existence is 
humankind's hallmark, and the respective orderings were not regarded 
as such it  WAS existence. I know no way to convey this without 
invoking SOM, but this is the message of the said quote.      

> You are not using "metaphysics" in the way Pirsig does. We experience
> reality in lots and lots of ways that never exhaust description.

Certainly, he soon went on to the said SOMish variant. That's the 
point! 

> Metaphysics is only one particular sort of description. It is the high
> country of the mind. 

Yes, after descriptions/reality, subject/object, mind/matter ...etc 
divisions were introduced metaphysics became mindish descriptions. 
And mark you - to undermine SOM Pirsig had to play by its rules, but 
when the MOQ takes over SOM is invalid .......you ought to know.     

> It is asking a limited sort of question that in 99% of our day we don't
> bother asking. If "the way we experience reality is a metaphysics" then
> washing the dishes is metaphysics and even babies and animals are doing
> metaphysics. 

Not you Steve with such Andre inanities, I mean it as an explanation of 
the origin of the world and usually its end. The known 
mythologies/religions are good examples and a devout believer does 
not say "...this is only one particular sort of description ...etc." The 
moment THIS attitude enters the spell is broken. If Bin Laden came 
out of his cave and said that Islam is just ....etc. he would have lost his 
motivation      

Bodvar