[MD] until death do us part

[Margaret Warren]

interesting - though isn't Jerry Garcia and the Dead 
a group thing? 

though I think you are right about 3 or more - chaos...
just watch 'Big Love' 
 

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To John the enthusiast of group things, from Ian the enthusiast of paired
things.

I call this the three-body-problem - after Newton. Pairs work because they
are (sufficiently) predictable .... three or more, chaos.
Workable groups are made of pairs of pairs of pairs of ...

Jerry Garcia and Neal Cassady
Jerry Garcia and The Grateful Dead
Man and wife.
Man and mistress
Wife and lover
Child and sibling
Child and parent

Subjects and objects do have value.

Easier to chew on ?
Ian

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:20 PM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Morning, Margaret, your quote coincides precisely with a little 
> snippet I just read, that seems right on the point:
>
>>
>> Bruce Lee said in "The Tao of Jeet Kune Do":
>> "To know oneself is to study oneself in action with another person."
>>
>> And you sure can learn alot in a relationship whether or not it 
>> involves the contract of marriage!
>>
>>
> The snippet I read was from the introduction to a book called "On the 
> Bus", a retrospective of the great bus Further and the Merry 
> Pranksters and about an episode where a relationship changed the 
> perspective of one person contemplating individuality vs. community 
> who claimed,  "Neal Cassady changed my life"
>
> "He was the mellow Neal, just a guy, just like us.  But there was a 
> mysterious thing there too. I had the feeling that I was involved in a 
> lesson...
>
> Neal represented a model to me of how far you could take it in an 
> individual way, in the sense that you weren't going to have a work, 
> you were going to be the work.  Work in real time, which is a lot like
musician's work.
>
> I was oscillating at the time.  I had originally been an art student 
> and was wavering between one-man-one-work or being involved in 
> something that was dynamic and ongoing and didn't necessarily stay any 
> one way-- and, also, something in which you weren't the only contributing
factor.
>
> I decided to go with what was dynamic and with what more than one mind 
> was involved with.
>
> The decision I came to was to be involved in a group thing, namely the 
> Grateful Dead, and I'm still involved with it."
>
> Jerry Garcia
>
> So back to the original question Marsha had, about MoQ reasons for 
> marriage, here's one to chew on.  Living by our own thinking is too
static.
>
> John the enthusiast of "group things"
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