[MD] The Quality/MOQ meta-metaphysics

[skutvik at online.no]

Hi Ham

[DMB] before:
> > > ... The MOQ makes that cut as the first move in a larger system
> > > but that system also says that such intellectual divisions are
> > > always secondary to the whole circle.

[Bo] comments:
> > Not so glib young man! It's no intellectual division, but THE
> > QUALITY ordering. And this ordering is not secondary to anything.
> > Lest you have - like Pirsig - to postulate another "intellectual" 
> > Quality/MOQ division that must be countered by a still higher  
> > ..ad infinitum. Come to your senses Dave.

Ham chimes in:
> The idea that something called Quality "orders up" the
> differentiated system that constitutes our reality is a fallacious
> concept that insults human intelligence.  

The thinking is run on our biological computer - intelligence called -
but now fed the MOQ program. All this is so matter-of-course that I
don't bother with mentioning it

> If this were true, there would be no need for experience or the
> intellect that you prize so highly. 

Q-intellect is a static level with its own "program" - the S/O one -
and has nothing to do with intelligence.

> David is right that divisions are always secondary to the whole.  

Your agreeing with DMB says a lot. Thank you!  But seriously and for
the umpteenth time, the MOQ says DQ is "the whole" and that SQ is
secondary. Are you all completely deaf?  

> The primary division is not the universe as experienced but the
> separation of value-sensibility (awareness) from the "absolute
> whole" (Essence or DQ). 

Well haven't you just turned the separation screw to the same point on 
a higher plane? Just like Pirsig did with the Quality/MOQ one? An 
absolute anything is 1) impossible (if pointing to it destroys it 2) Usless 
until an internal ordering.     

Let's stop here

Bodvar