[MD] The Quality/MOQ meta-metaphysics
skutvik at online.no
skutvik at online.no
Fri Jun 18 01:37:43 PDT 2010
DMB, All.
17 June.:
Bo before:
> Where does the MOQ say that "the world as we know it" are analogies.
> It says that it is Value. If it was analogies a Metaphysics of
> Analogies (MOA) is required.
Pirsig wrote:
> "Now it comes! Because Quality is the GENERATOR of the mythos. That's
> it. That's what he meant when he said, 'Quality is the continuing
> stimulus which causes us to create the world in which we live. All of
> it. Every last bit of it.' ...Men invent RESPONSES to Quality, and
> among these responses is an understanding of what they themselves are.
> You know something and then the Quality stimulus hits and then you try
> to define the Quality stimulus, but to define it all you've go to work
> with is what you know. So your definition is made up of what you know.
> It's an analogue to what you already know. It HAS to be. It can't be
> anything else. And the mythos grows this way. By analogies to what is
> known before. The mythos is a building of analogues upon analogues.
> These fill the boxcars of the train of consciousness." (ZAMM, page
> 351, near the end of chapter 28. Emphasis is Pirsig's)
This is at a very early stage of the Quality system in ZAMM when SOM
was seen as the destroyer of the great old mythological past, but -
according to the "mythos-logos" mechanism - were seen as becoming
another mythos left in the dust by the mythos-generator itself
QUALITY. Thus the analogies in this example are the static quality
levels and their patterns in the full-fledged MOQ and unless DQ is an
analogy too everything is Quality (Morals, Values or Good as Mary
points to) Again, if everything were analogies Pirsig would have made
it a MOQ.
Bodvar
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