[MD] The Quality/MOQ meta-metaphysics

skutvik at online.no skutvik at online.no
Fri Jun 18 01:37:43 PDT 2010


DMB, All.

17 June.:

Bo before:
> Where does the MOQ say  that "the world as we know it" are analogies.
> It says that it is Value. If it was analogies a Metaphysics of
> Analogies (MOA) is required.

Pirsig wrote:
> "Now it comes! Because Quality is the GENERATOR of the mythos. That's
> it. That's what he meant when he said, 'Quality is the continuing
> stimulus which causes us to create the world in which we live. All of
> it. Every last bit of it.' ...Men invent RESPONSES to Quality, and
> among these responses is an understanding of what they themselves are.
> You know something and then the Quality stimulus hits and then you try
> to define the Quality stimulus, but to define it all you've go to work
> with is what you know. So your definition is made up of what you know.
> It's an analogue to what you already know. It HAS to be. It can't be
> anything else. And the mythos grows this way. By analogies to what is 
> known before. The mythos is a building of analogues upon analogues.
> These fill the boxcars of the train of consciousness."  (ZAMM, page
> 351, near the end of chapter 28. Emphasis is Pirsig's) 

This is at a very early stage of the Quality system in ZAMM when SOM 
was seen as the destroyer of the great old mythological past, but - 
according to the "mythos-logos" mechanism - were seen as becoming 
another  mythos left in the dust by the mythos-generator itself 
QUALITY. Thus the analogies in this example are the static quality 
levels and their patterns in the full-fledged MOQ and unless DQ is an 
analogy too everything is Quality (Morals, Values or Good as Mary 
points to)  Again, if everything were analogies Pirsig would have made 
it a MOQ.

Bodvar  





















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