[MD] The Quality/MOQ meta-metaphysics

[X Acto]

Fellas,
A huge point in all this, is that once you take away the interpretive
arguement of what Pirsig says, and allow SOL to stand on it's own
merit, it quickly dissolves into thin air.

 


----- Original Message ----
From: ARLO J BENSINGER JR <ajb102 at psu.edu>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Mon, June 21, 2010 3:48:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] The Quality/MOQ meta-metaphysics

[Platt]
Perhaps you'll recall that Pirsig cautioned us not to take his
Johnny-come-lately definition of intellect as a "Papal Bull.

[Arlo]
This is just nonsense. I take nothing Pirsig said as "papal bull". I take what
he said and I decide if I agree with it, or if I do not.

It is clear Pirsig does not regard the intellectual level as SOM. He has stated
so outright. 

You can (as you do) disagree with him. No harm there. I disagree with him on
some things well.

But you can NOT claim he ever meant this. He himself has said he did not.

So there is Pirsig's MOQ, in which SOM is just one intellectual pattern. And
there is Bo's MOQ, in which SOM is the entire intellectual level.

They are two distinct ideas. You can argue all you want that Bo's is better. It
may be. It may not be. That is an argument that is valid.

But you can't argue that Bo's MOQ is what Pirsig "meant". That is incorrect.
And that is an argument that is not valid.

[Platt]
If you consider the intellectual level as the home of every idea ever
conceived, you rip the heart out of the MOQ and kill its liberating
significance.

[Arlo]
And Pirsig has said that the SOL undermines the MOQ.

Again, you disagree with Pirsig's MOQ and think Bo's MOQ is better. Fine. I
disagree, however, and think on this issue that Pirsig is correct.




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