[MD] The Quality/MOQ meta-metaphysics

[MarshaV]

On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:30 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Marsha to Andre:
> 
> Your reference to christian symbols misrepresents what Bo is saying,...
> 
> Andre:
> No! Marsha, Bodvar has stated himself that metaphysics equals experience. You misrepresent what Bodvar has said.
> 
> Marsha:
> For the most part, the academy has turned into a most pedestrian social institution.
> 
> Andre:
> Agreement here Marsha, for the most part it is but let's support and recognize those that are genuinely interested in DQ. And sympathize with those that are simply there to keep things going the way they are. The combination of these two would be good.(DQ/sq)

There is value in rationality and the scientific processes.  But if you 
want DQ and a higher morality follow RMP's pointing:  

While sustaining biological and social patterns
Kill all intellectual patterns.
Kill them completely
And then follow Dynamic Quality
And morality will be served.
   (LILA, Chapter 32)


> 
> Marsha:
> I hope the MoQ NEVER becomes institutionalized.
> 
> Andre:
> Jeez, agreement again...so let St. Bodvar drop this silly SOL=the entire intellectual level nonsense.


Marsha:
Intellectual Static Patterns of Value are reified concepts and the rules 
for their rational analysis and manipulation. Intellectual patterns create 
false boundaries, giving the illusion of independence, or 'thingness'. 
The fourth level is a formalized subject/object level where the subjective 
is supposedly stripped from the experience. 

I believe in an emerging quality level where value is known as primary, 
and fourth-level, intellectual patterns are used for creating and implementing 
a higher quality experience/environment.  Someday we'll find it, the rainbow 
connection, the lovers, the dreamers and me.   

As far as I know intellectual patterns are as I stated above, and I have seen 
no evidence to the contrary.   Have you presented an intellectual pattern that 
transcends a subject/object representation of reality, excluding art which may 
use intellectual patterns but also makes use of inorganic, biological and social 
patterns and often goes beyond.  Where is your evidence?  Let's see you 
demonstrate an intellectual pattern that does not reify concepts, that does not 
create a self involved in analyzing such concepts, or does not represent the 
rules for such manipulation?  You cannot do it, because the minute you've 
begun you have divided and formed an object and an analyzing self.  





 
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