[MD] The Quality/MOQ meta-metaphysics

[plattholden at gmail.com]

On 27 Jun 2010 at 6:17, MarshaV wrote:

> > Marsha to Andre:

> Marsha:
> Intellectual Static Patterns of Value are reified concepts and the rules 
> for their rational analysis and manipulation. Intellectual patterns create 
> false boundaries, giving the illusion of independence, or 'thingness'. 
> The fourth level is a formalized subject/object level where the subjective 
> is supposedly stripped from the experience. 
> 
> I believe in an emerging quality level where value is known as primary, 
> and fourth-level, intellectual patterns are used for creating and implementing 
> a higher quality experience/environment.  Someday we'll find it, the rainbow 
> connection, the lovers, the dreamers and me.   
> 
> As far as I know intellectual patterns are as I stated above, and I have seen 
> no evidence to the contrary.   Have you presented an intellectual pattern that 
> transcends a subject/object representation of reality, excluding art which may 
> use intellectual patterns but also makes use of inorganic, biological and social 
> patterns and often goes beyond.  Where is your evidence?  Let's see you 
> demonstrate an intellectual pattern that does not reify concepts, that does not 
> create a self involved in analyzing such concepts, or does not represent the 
> rules for such manipulation?  You cannot do it, because the minute you've 
> begun you have divided and formed an object and an analyzing self.  

[Platt}
Yes, Andre. Let's see you demonstrate an intellectual pattern that isn't based 
on the subject/object division. I'm all tingly with anticipation.