[MD] The Quality/MOQ meta-metaphysics
skutvik at online.no
skutvik at online.no
Sun Jun 27 11:48:38 PDT 2010
Horse
26 June you wrote:
> Another disagreement here. The mythos is not the social level, it is
> the means by which ideas propagate. Ideas about Gods and such but
> still ideas nonetheless. Both mythos and logos are tools. You really
> have lost your way with the MoQ.
Check with DMB. In a recent post he made exactly that equation:
Mythos = social value. Logos = intellectual ditto. He is the authority in
your quarters... no? And that is another SOL proof is unnecessary to
say.
Bodvar
>
> Horse
>
> On 26/06/2010 09:30, skutvik at online.no wrote:
> > Krimel
> >
> > 25 June:
> >
> > Horse had said:
> >
> >> As far as I can see, your biggest mistake is to confuse the data of
> >> the intellectual level with the tools that manipulate that data.
> >> The intellectual level is composed of ideas (data) and SOM, MoQ,
> >> metaphysics in general, science, philosophy, mathematics etc. are
> >> the means by which they are ordered, manipulated and presented
> >> (tools - or ideas about ideas). At least, that's my take on it.
> >> Ideas can be good or bad, supported or unsupported, weird or normal
> >> and a number of shades in between! Similarly, the tools used (ideas
> >> about ideas) can be simple or complicated, complete or incomplete
> >> etc. etc.
> >>
> >
> >> [Krimel]
> >> That is pretty close the position I have pushed for. I wonder if
> >> you would agree that this puts both the Mythos and the Logos on the
> >> intellectual level as well?
> >>
> > I do hope that Horse reads this sees what strange bedfellows his
> > anti- SOLism brings. You bet that it puts the Mythos (social level)
> > and Logos (Intellectual level) on the "intellectual level". SOM's
> > philosophical idealism makes absolutely everything "intellectual" in
> > the Intellect=Mind sense.
> >
> > Bodvar
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