[MD] The Quality/MOQ meta-metaphysics

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Ian, John, All

Ian, I should have responded to some earlier post where you chastised 
me for something don't now remember, but I've been so extraordinary 
busy. For now to your exchange with John which is based on some 
gross misunderstanding of things at least by John.  

You said to John :
> Precisely John, So (in the other thread) concluding that a SOMist
> definition of intellect is immoral is one thing, but concluding that
> intellect IS therefore immoral is a logical misstep too far.

I don't know what other thread this refers to, but at least a SOMist 
definition of the term "intellect" is mind and its patterns are "ideas" 
generally, check with Horse. Therefore the somists get so upset with 
the SOL, to them it looks "restrictive", but SOL says that intellect is 
everything the somists say only it's an "in here" in contrast to an "out 
there", thus every subtle thing they want intellect to be, the SOL says 
"Yes please that too"

Now, to the "immoral" issue. We all agree that the inorganic and 
animal world are "amoral" in a traditional (SOM) sense. Morals only 
entered with humankind  when - according to tradition - Man learned 
about good and evil. Then science, modernity, that declared that the 
material world was was a dead inert mass, morals only existed in 
peoples' minds, and with the clout science carried it looked like the 
final word. 

Then the MOQ and its thesis that all is Morals with static levels of 
morals (I speak SOL because only it makes sense) and what was 
called science and modernity becomes its static intellectual moral 
level. What looked amoral has changed into the immense moral 
(value) of a matterish world opposed to a mindish one. However, this 
has no longer any detrimental effect because having been to MOQ's 
meta-level existence is seen for what it really is.      

> Try MoQish intellect ... intellect with a good dose of morality, you
> know it makes sense. 

Hope this says the same  ;-)
 
John 
> See Bo, You build your case upon the amorality of the entire
> intellectual level, but according to the MoQ, Morality is the
> underpinning reality of all levels, thus your SOL is immoral and
> ought to be opposed.  

Hope you understand my long-winded expounding above. SOM was 
"amoral" in the traditional  moral sense, but in the MOQ where 
everything is moral the picture changes fundamentally, it's the highest 
static morality. 

Bodvar