[MD] MD FW: The intellectual level and rationality

[skutvik at online.no]

Hi Mike.

On 7 Dec. you wrote:

> Bo, this is just a brief message of support.

> > Again, ZMM sees the early search for principles beyond the
> > myths as the embryonic S/O. The principles "objective" and the
> > old myths just "subjective". When will this sink in?
 
> Soon, if you continue to explain yourself as succinctly as this!

I needed this. Thanks, you made my day..  

> The following is worth quoting too:
 
> >     "The Metaphysics of Quality resolves the relationship between
> >     intellect and society, subject and object, mind and matter, by
> >     embedding all of them in a larger system of understanding. 
> >     Objects are inorganic and biological values; subjects are social
> >     and intellectual values.  They are not two mysterious universes
> >     that go floating around in some subject-object dream that allows
> >     them no real contact with one another.  They have a
> >     matter-of-fact evolutionary relationship." [LILA, p344]

> > The impossible thing about this way of "encasing" the SOM inside the
> > MOQ is that it sounds as if SOM still is valid: that societies are
> > in our minds and that biology is "out there". This is out of tune
> > with the MOQ that has declare the SOM nil an void.  and consequently
> > can have no relevance to its own levels this way.

> This is of crucial importance.

It's good that there are thinkers still around Mike. I regret if it 
sounds disloyal to object to Pirsig's utterings, but I can't help 
criticize what grates my Q-nerve. The said "encasement" is no 
mere uttering, but part of the canon and it was only after it 
appeared in the "Subjects, Objects ..." paper that its dubious 
nature dawned on me. I excused it as Pirsig accommodating to a 
somish audience, but he denied that in "Lila's Child" .... alas.       

Thanks again.   

Bo