[MD] MD FW: The intellectual level and rationality

skutvik at online.no skutvik at online.no
Thu Dec 15 08:54:41 PST 2005


Ian 

You spoke thus:   

> How could you possibly accuse Paul (or I) of working AGAINST releasing
> intellect from anything. 

Releasing intellect? I spoke about him hindering the MOQ to tear 
loose from intellect's grip. Earlier you had written:

> > The lesson is to recognise the child-like simplicity, not to learn
> > something more intellectual, in order to unederstand. 
 
And I agreed, it's my very point to see the MOQ as something 
beyond the 4th level ("beyond intellect" sounds like giving up 
one's senses). And the SOL represents that child-like simplicity.       

> In fact we have been constatly suggesting
> it's your very act of setting up intelect as SOMism / SOL that is
> creating that prison.

It's not me suggesting anything  but written all over LILA and 
ZMM. It has been confirmed by Pirsig. See the next paragraph.     

> A fossilised pattern I called it. I couldn't be
> working harder for the opposite if I tried.

The SOM is "fossilised" all right, but the quality of the S/O divide 
cannot be jettisoned without us slipping back to the dark ages. 
Therefore it is best encapsuled as the 4th level. The original 
definition of this level as "mind" where ideas pop up and 
disappear is rejected and in the same letter Pirsig said that the 
Greeks "developed intellect" and this confirms that intellect is the 
S/O. How can this slow and inevitable move in the SOL way pass 
by unnoticed?  

I chose to ignore your parting "greeting", you are not the kind to 
revert to foul language or hurt silence when arguments fail.    

Bo 





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