[MD] MD Quality, DQ and SQ

[ian glendinning]

David,

In the philosophical sense of the word "materialist" it's the same thing.
Wash your ears out :-) and listen to this ...

My objection to the word materialist as a label is the "substantial"
connotations in the "material" root of the word, which are wholly
misleading to any debate since new-physics.

That's all.

Do all aspects of experience fit a physical description ?
Probably not yet, but I don't see why they shouldn't.
I suspend disbelief.
(There is no metaphysics but physics, by my working definition of physics.)
Ian

On 12/16/05, David M <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Ian
>
> I would love to understand how a physicalist is
> not a materialist. Are all qualities physical?
> Do all aspects of experience fit a physical description?
>
> DM
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ian glendinning" <psybertron at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] MD Quality, DQ and SQ
>
>
> > Scott,
> >
> > You asked
> > Do you still take Darwinism seriously as a basis to explain the origin of
> > consciousness and language?
> >
> > Yes I do, properly explained neo-Darwinsm (a la Dennett / Blackmore /
> > Pinker ) that is.
> >
> > You also asked ...
> > Do you, in fact, think that they originated? Do you think space and
> > time are the background in which consciousness exists?
> >
> > Yes, in the sense I'm a physicalist - all components and explanations
> > of consciousness exist in physics - but that's a million miles from
> > materialism. Precious little material in physics. Which also isn't to
> > say, that all physical components of consciousness always existed
> > (they may have evolved too), doesn't preclude a more entangled
> > explanation than mere "background", and also doesn't preclude
> > explanatory components of consciousness not yet being recognised in
> > physics (though Dennett would criticise me for that last opening to
> > mystical physics.)
> >
> > Materialism needs to be fought OK, but with better physical as well as
> > better philosophical explanations.
> >
> > Ian
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