[MD] New Model Army, Mystic(DQ) Experience, and Religion (SQ) as Power
Stephen Hannon
stevehannon at gmail.com
Sun Aug 6 21:00:07 PDT 2006
DMB, Arlo
[Arlo]
Too bad... "Love is my religion" would make a great tattoo.
But why you feel this is different in sentiment than NMA's chorus, I don't know.
[Steve H]
NMA seemed to have an angry sentiment:
Down with Moses and his Ten Commandments
Deader than deadest of the Dead Sea Scrolls
Back to the desert with Jesus and Mohammed
Ziggy Marley seemed to have a pacifist sentiment:
I don't condemn, I don't convert, this is a calling have you heard
bring all the lovers to the fold, cause no one is gonna lose their soul
I don't want to fight, hey let's go fly a kite
there's nothing that we can't cure, and I'll keep you in my arms for sure
so don't let nobody stop us, free spirits have to soar
with you I share the gift, the gift that we now know oh oh oh
[DMB]
I'd rather have a real conversation about it. Really. Anyone can see how a
traditional Christian could be offended by the suggestion that she believes
in things that aren't true. Yea, that's gonna hurt...I wish the
self-described Christians amongst us would take a serious look at this
instead of freaking out about it. I wish the theists amongst would
make a sincere effort to grapple with the Pirsig quotes and otherwise
engage the argument on its merits.
[Steve H]
Again, the same lines from NMA:
Down with Moses and his Ten Commandments
Deader than deadest of the Dead Sea Scrolls
Back to the desert with Jesus and Mohammed
Sounds like people are getting ready for a war not a debate. I would
like to have a real conversation about it as well. I really was most
concerned with the mood conveyed by the lines above.
Regards,
Steve H
On 8/4/06, craigerb at comcast.net <craigerb at comcast.net> wrote:
> [Ian]
> > better
> > alternatives to "straight" popular democracy ... where the "wrong"
> > people seem to end up in power
>
> I find the problem not with the WRONG PEOPLE, but with the IN POWER, side of the equation. ("All power corrupts & absolute power corrupts absolutely.") Hitler was not a problem when he was merely a corporal, but only when he rose to chancellor. Rather than tinkering with the selection process, maybe we should design the system so that no individual, party or institution has too much unchecked power.
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