[MD] New Model Army, Mystic(DQ) Experience, and Religion (SQ) as Power

[Heather Perella]

Hey Case,

     Also, Case, there are those irrational thoughts
of imagination such as real thousand butthole
monsters.  That, necessarily doesn't have to be so
touchy feely, heartfelt stuff.  
     Transcend... transcend... transcend your
thoughts, your ego, everything, and what is it?  I
don't know - and that's a real place, too, called the
'I don't know experience'.

SA

--- Case <case at ispots.com> wrote:

> 
> > gav said:
> > the MOQ is an explicit metaphysics with a mystical
> (implicit)
> > summit/centre/source. the MOQ has a spiritual
> dimension: 'spirit' implying
> > a higher order or intelligence at work. **does
> anyone disagree with this?
> 
> [Case]
> Yes
> 
> > dmb says:
> > But I think we do need a word that refers to forms
> of consciousness that
> go beyond conventional thinking. Following Ken
> Wilber, I see
> spirituality as the higher end of cognitive
> development, something that
> is supposed to take us beyond logic and rationality.
> So, yea, I'd say it
> implies a higher order of intelligence, but its a
> natural, human
> intelligence and not a seperate or supernatural
> being.
> 
> > How's that?
> 
> [Case]
> I agree with the part about no separate
> intelligences and no
> "supernatural" but rationality and logic are what
> take us out of the gooey
> emotional, feeling talk that spirituality ulimately
> leads to. rationality
> should not surplant emotion but when the two work in
> Harmony... ah, there
> is that word again.
> 
> 
> 
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