[MD] New Model Army, Mystic(DQ) Experience, and Religion (SQ) as Power

Stephen Hannon stevehannon at gmail.com
Tue Aug 8 15:39:20 PDT 2006


[Ant McWatt]
That doesn't follow, Stephen.  Does that then mean Pirsig also supports the
caste system in the MOQ?

[Steve H]
No, it doesn't.  How exactly did you get that out of what I was saying?

Steve H

On 8/8/06, Ant McWatt <antmcwatt at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Stephen H stated August 8th:
>
> >I don't see Pirsig as being anti-theistic as he equates his idea to
> >ancient Hindu doctrine.
>
> Ant McWatt comments:
>
> That doesn't follow, Stephen.  Does that then mean Pirsig also supports the
> caste system in the MOQ?
>
> Have a look at the Copleston annotations at
> http://www.robertpirsig.org/Copleston.htm for how Pirsig regards theism.
> He's absolutely anti-theistic!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Anthony
>
>
> >From: "Stephen Hannon" <stevehannon at gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >Subject: Re: [MD] New Model Army, Mystic(DQ) Experience,and Religion (SQ)
> >as Power
> >Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 17:53:23 -0400
> >
> >[Steve H]
> >
> > >From LILA pages 434-437:
> >
> >"The Proto-Indo-European root of arete was the morpheme rt.  There
> >beside arete was a treasure room of other derived "rt" words:
> >arithmetic, aristocrat, art, rhetoric, worth, rite, ritual, wright,
> >right (handed), right (correct)...
> >
> >(paraphrase)
> >...When the morpheme appeared in aristocrat and arithemtic the
> >reference was to "firstness."
> >art, wright               "created," "of beauty"
> >ritual                      "repetitive order"
> >right                       "moral and esthetic corectness"
> >.:rt =  "The first, created, beautiful repetitive order of moral and
> >esthetic corectness."
> >
> >page 436:
> >"But all the gods were conceived as "guardians of rta," willing the
> >right and making sure it was carried out."
> >
> >page 437:
> >"The physical order of the universe is also the moral order of the
> >universe.  Rta is both.  This was exactly what the Metaphysics of
> >Quality was claiming.  It was not a new idea.  It was the oldest idea
> >known to man."
> >
> >I don't see Pirsig as being anti-theistic is he equates his idea to
> >ancient Hindu doctrine.
> >
> >That's all for now,
> >Steve H
>
>
> .
>
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