[MD] Essentialism and the MOQ

David M davidint at blueyonder.co.uk
Sat Dec 2 12:15:08 PST 2006


and those birds in the trees won't pay their fees....


David M

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Subject: Re: [MD] Essentialism and the MOQ


>
>
>     [SA previously]
>> >     Dq full of possiblities, even the possibility
>> > that it is not a possiblity and not a portal to
>> the
>> > infinite.
>
>
>> DM: Can't see any sense in that.
>
>
>     Good, it came across as dq.  "Can't see any sense
> in that," that's dq.
>
>
>     [SA previously]
>> >     I'm smelling the meaning here, but to prevent
>> any hung-ups, infinite would have no subsets.
>
>
>> DM: If that were true we would not know this finite
>> world.
>
>
>    Winter is not spring, but they are seasons.  But
> not the same, but they're seasons, I say, they're
> seasons, but winter is distinction and definitely not
> spring, but they're both seasons.
>    What is a subset?  Infinite is infinite and finite
> is finite, yet, both here, well, static is static and
> dynamic is dynamic, yet, they are both here being
> quality:  'they-are-both' being mu.
>
>
>     [DM]
>> Unless what we are is a sort of block to what is
>> entirely infinite, so the world is finite for us due
> to our
>> human limits.
>
>
>     I yell into the sky and never hear the echo of my
> own voice.  I yell into a cave and my voice echos
> everywhere.  It all depends on where your perspective
> is.  The universe is continuous, boundless, yet, I can
> distinctly see a tree, yet, that tree is a forest,
> too, etc...  Infinite works and experiences under a
> different set of rules than finite, just as static and
> dynamic, yet, somehow they are both quality.  Quality
> is static and dynamic.  Quality is finite and
> infinite.  Quality is everything and nothing.  This
> 'somehow-they are both' is code of art - dynamic
> morality.
>
>
>     [SA previously]
>> >     Yes, sq is all latch, hold, and stay.  Yet,
>> water flowing is a static event.  I find it easier
> for
>> me to notice 'anything' defined as sq, and
> 'anything'
>> > not-defined as dq.  Thus, once I defined
>> 'anything' that I never knew about, I notice sq now
> with the
>> > definition, and assume that this 'anything' was
>> once not-defined, thus, dq.
>
>
>> DM: DQ should always challenge our SQ linked
>> expectations, having no expectations will help open
>> more openings for DQ
>
>     Sure!
>
>> DM: Yet what is individual about any such e-venting
>> of a tree is DQ. There is much to value in what is
>> new and unique and fleeting and never repeats.
>> We also mourn those possibilities that we walk
>> away from, never emerged, and remain as might have
>> beens.
>
>     Everyday the event is new where the bird seed
> hangs from the tree.
>
>
> woods,
> SA
>
>
>
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