[MD] Quantum Physics

[PhaedrusWolff at carolina.rr.com]

Hi SA,

What you are speaking of with meditation, I find in hiking, just being 
by a creek, or even parked in my truck near the woods. I think 
anything that keeps your focus off yourself is a form of meditation, 
and yes, it is calming and I imagine just getting in touch with your 
inner self would cleanse some of the false identities we allow to 
build up in us from living the mechanical life. 

SA)Hmmm, very interesting. This connection consciousness involves us 
with would as you state above, get us beyond debates of whether as you 
say, "It could be the universe, or it could be in the confines of our 
own mind, or it could be Nothingness..." Consciousness, put this way, 
is connecting us, and thus, it doesn't matter where consciousness is 
coming from, for in this line of thinking, consciousness, according to 
its' nature, would need to be clear, in by being clear, would not 
emphasize or gravitate to some distraction. Consciousness, it seems, 
can't have a way about itself in which it is misleading. 
Consciousness, it seems, can't inherently involve a delineated view 
and/or inherently be directive, thus, consciousness can't be selfish 
and force a view that consciousness itself wants any being to be 
conscious of. This is, I assume, why you state consciousness "...could 
be Nothingness...". Consciousness is just clear and quiet involved no-
self. Yet, as we understand, just 
because consciousness is this way, consciousness therefore does 
inherently involve a Way. 

Chin) I would think “a Way,” or in some traditions, “The Way,” is 
simply a teaching of how to get to consciousness. It would seem to me 
we are all conscious to a degree, and don’t realize how much 
consciousness works its way into our psyche, what would be referred to 
here as “intuition.” 

SA) Excellent reading, thanks, and yes, ego-climber, I see. No-self 
climber as in impermanence=chaos. Quantum physicist not having trouble 
with the unknown. Static quality is stuckness. Intellectual level is 
stuck. Social level is stuck. To not know the difference between these 
levels might be due to the porous nature of these levels for those 
helping these levels understand their moral positions. Thus, 
perspective. Those involved in helping the social level with 
intellectual quality would not notice a huge stumbling block between 
the two levels, or any of the levels for that matter. To focus upon 
trying to delineate these two levels would be an effort that does 
create conflict between these two levels. Yet, if intellectual quality 
is helping social level, then intellectual level activity would 
disperse to social level and thus, no huge or seemingly no difference 
between the two levels would be waving its' hands like some celebrity 
on a stage saying, "Here's the difference."
 The difference is being overcome or calmed by a helpful intellect, a 
clear intellect, one that is stuck with nothing. Stuckness can either 
be a trap or not a trap. Stuckness upon original intellectual latch is 
a stuckness upon nothing. Stuck upon static latches, the 'after' 
or 'post' code of art first split would seem to be latches that trap 
one with something, thus, stuck to static quality and the ego. 

Chin) Stuckness, a good word. When I think of stuckness, I think of 
older folks who get stuck in the way they are, no longer willing to 
consider DQ, because they have become comfortable in their 
understanding, and no longer growing. They may be preparing to pass on 
to the next life or stage, no longer concerned or excited with the 
current one.